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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    There were speaking about all of mankind, specifically all white male landholders. The language was specifically added by more liberal elements as I understand it (class was some years ago). Later this language was used as an argument to free slaves and include women. At no time have ai seen any evidence they meant only citizens.

    However, I look at it differently than you do. I don't see those individuals at all. I see us as being subject to the rules. We, our people, soliders are subject to the laws and prinicples no matter who we're addressing because we are citizens. It informs us on how to behave. It's not only rights afforded, but rules of behavior.

    And your poor nation esteem stuff is tiresome. By believing it our ideals in no way suggests I hate my nation. Quite the opposite. I believe in it's ideals and values. I merely want us to live up to them and not down to those ideals I see as less noble, those of the people we fight.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There were speaking about all of mankind, specifically all white male landholders. The language was specifically added by more liberal elements as I understand it (class was some years ago). Later this language was used as an argument to free slaves and include women. At no time have ai seen any evidence they meant only citizens.

    However, I look at it differently than you do. I don't see those individuals at all. I see us as being subject to the rules. We, our people, soliders are subject to the laws and prinicples no matter who we're addressing because we are citizens. It informs us on how to behave. It's not only rights afforded, but rules of behavior.

    And your poor nation esteem stuff is tiresome. By believing it our ideals in no way suggests I hate my nation. Quite the opposite. I believe in it's ideals and values. I merely want us to live up to them and not down to those ideals I see as less noble, those of the people we fight.
    Well, you are intentionally misinterpeting what I am saying here, so at this time I'll leave it, and hit the pool.


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, you are intentionally misinterpeting what I am saying here, so at this time I'll leave it, and hit the pool.


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    I'm reading it as best I can. If you think I made a msitake, please show me where.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I merely want us to live up to them and not down to those ideals I see as less noble, those of the people we fight.
    you mean the assassins?

    or just the detainers and wiretappers?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    On another note.....

    Have you noticed that since this happened, it's like Japan's nuclear crisis never happened?

    In three months, no one will care about bin Laden either.

    People's attention spans are so short these days.
    while Bin Ladens death was significant to people in the western world it wasn't as significant to the people in the ME. he lost his relevancy a long time ago. millions of muslim Arabs don't give a **** about Bin Laden, they are more interested in mass uprising to get rid of dictators. recent events are testament to that.

    he's dead. good riddance. there's a lot more important things going on in the world than spending months talking about a man who had become irrelevant being killed in Pakistan.
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    So we can learn to pick ourselves up.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    while Bin Ladens death was significant to people in the western world it wasn't as significant to the people in the ME. he lost his relevancy a long time ago. millions of muslim Arabs don't give a **** about Bin Laden, they are more interested in mass uprising to get rid of dictators. recent events are testament to that.

    he's dead. good riddance. there's a lot more important things going on in the world than spending months talking about a man who had become irrelevant being killed in Pakistan.
    So you agree with Bush then. It is though interesting to see the libs with that twinkle in their eye on how they think Obama can ride this into the election....


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    What I quoted was the Declaration of Independence. It states our beliefs. We don't have the option of ignoring rule of law just because the person we're dealing with isn't a citizen.

    The "declaration of independence" is not law. sorry.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    The "declaration of independence" is not law. sorry.
    Didn't say it was. Read for comprhension. It'll help.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Didn't say it was. Read for comprhension. It'll help.


    The Boo Radley shuffle.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    The Boo Radley shuffle.
    Rev, this is your tactic when you misread something, or find yourself wrong. I accept your confession.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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