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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    his hand in murdering thousands of innocent people was certainly significant but in the end he was becoming more insignificant. he was a failure. the mass revolutions in the Arab world over the past few months give testament to that.

    are we safer now that Bin Laden's dead? possibly, but unfortunately we are never going to be able to eradicate every single crazy extremist out there.

    millions of Arab Muslims have risen up and are prepared for their own martyrdom – not for Islam but for freedom and liberty and democracy. to them, al-Qaeda was already politically dead and that is not the path they have chosen to follow.

    don't lose sight of that.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    I'm not convinced we're safer. It's likely that there is already someone who has taken his place.
    “In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” -Napoleon

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    I'm not convinced we're safer. It's likely that there is already someone who has taken his place.
    But do they have his money?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    because a preeminent source is a preeminent source
    couldn't have been accomplished without what's-his-name's ways---gitmo, detention, wiretapping...
    it all, including eit's, led to the assassination
    remember?
    So the fact that what you're saying is in direct and explicit contradiction to the source you're citing has no impact. kk
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    How do you figure? It might seem that way if you don't think about it. He tried hard to close GITMO for example, but lack fo congressional support hindered that and not his acceptance that it was best. Seriously, what is wrong with being honest about these things?
    Meh...Another 'it's not his fault' moment...Good GAWD Joe, is there anything that you tongue wagging supporters will see him accept responsibility for?


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Meh...Another 'it's not his fault' moment...Good GAWD Joe, is there anything that you tongue wagging supporters will see him accept responsibility for?


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    J, do you prefer to be honest, or play polticial games. There is a difference between a person changing his mind and saying Bush was right and not changing your mind but being unable to effect the change you want. You may argue he's ineffective, maybe even too weak to force it, but there is no evidence that he's accepted Bush's position. Again, it's about honesty.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    J, do you prefer to be honest, or play polticial games. There is a difference between a person changing his mind and saying Bush was right and not changing your mind but being unable to effect the change you want. You may argue he's ineffective, maybe even too weak to force it, but there is no evidence that he's accepted Bush's position. Again, it's about honesty.


    I gotta question for you.

    How can you support an extrajudicial assassination of OBL, but not EIT of KSM?



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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I gotta question for you.

    How can you support an extrajudicial assassination of OBL, but not EIT of KSM?



    Curious minds want to know.
    Have you read what I said about this? If it was an assassination, I don't support it. If they were trying to capture him and he was killed in the firefight, **** happens. My preference would be that he stand trial. While I won't cry or moun his death, assassination is just as illegal as EIT.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    J, do you prefer to be honest, or play polticial games. There is a difference between a person changing his mind and saying Bush was right and not changing your mind but being unable to effect the change you want. You may argue he's ineffective, maybe even too weak to force it, but there is no evidence that he's accepted Bush's position. Again, it's about honesty.

    Honesty? Where is that in anything this guy does? We haven't had a moment in the past two years of this administration that wasn't done under the guise of political expediency. Don't be hold us to standards you don't have any intention of holding yourself to. That is directly out of 'Rules for radicals' and we see that.


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Have you read what I said about this? If it was an assassination, I don't support it. If they were trying to capture him and he was killed in the firefight, **** happens. My preference would be that he stand trial. While I won't cry or moun his death, assassination is just as illegal as EIT.
    Is OBL a world leader now?


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