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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Buuuuuuuuuttt....Aren't we better than they are? Don't you believe in our legal system?

    Don't you believe that Justice can end with the death of the terrorists but we should ensure we are doing it right and bring them to the bar of justice without resorting to their tactics???
    All civilized laws to which advanced nations aspired and agreed to were made with the understanding that certain rules applied and that the punishment for breaking these rules would be death and dishonor for the participants and the nations that broke them.

    Now Islamic terrorists are not only breaking these rules that have attempted to bring some civility to the nastiness of war, they are glorifying and celebrating the death and destruction of innocent people and the rules of any civilized society.

    The Geneva Convention, Marquis of Queensbury rules, and any number of understandable principals were satisfactory when all people with a sense of decency followed them but terrorists have ignored these laws of humanity and should be treated in kind. It does no good to explain the rules to thugs waiting for innocent people in a dark alley. All means of eradicating this international disease must be used, and the simple process of waterboarding should be among our many available options.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

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    Yes actually, now I do.
    Sorry to hear that. Sad really.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Why do you wish to defend terrorist? Rule of Law? The USA did nothing illegal so suck it up buster!
    Innocent people we subjected to torture, and at least one died. Rule of law protects the innocent. That's why we often give punishment after conviction. When we forget thereasons for rule of law, we often allow innocnet people to be abused.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    rule of law---detention, rendition, gitmo, wiretapping...

    credit goes to barack the slasher for NOT dismantling the anti terror tactics of his predecessor, allowing our agents and seals to get ubl

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    rule of law---detention, rendition, gitmo, wiretapping...

    credit goes to barack the slasher for NOT dismantling the anti terror tactics of his predecessor, allowing our agents and seals to get ubl
    President Bush gave up looking for bin Laden, it was only by President Obama commitment and good hard detective work by the CIA that we got him.


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    President Bush gave up looking for bin Laden, it was only by President Obama commitment and good hard detective work by the CIA that we got him.
    i don't think bush stopped looking for osama. i think he stopped TALKING about looking for osama.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't think bush stopped looking for osama. i think he stopped TALKING about looking for osama.
    That's likely true. He would have loved to have caught him, I'm sure.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    President Bush gave up looking for bin Laden, it was only by President Obama commitment and good hard detective work by the CIA that we got him.
    ...and unilaterally violating a country's sovereignty in order to achieve that.....You have no problems with that, eh?

    Do you think, your excellence (Obama) would have done the same in ....lets say, China, Iran, Venezuela, NK etc to get UBL????

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Innocent people we subjected to torture, and at least one died. Rule of law protects the innocent. That's why we often give punishment after conviction. When we forget thereasons for rule of law, we often allow innocnet people to be abused.
    Maybe you could clairify whom the innocent people were that we "tortured"? Because the people I have heard interviewed concerning this intel on OBL all speak about the actual waterboarding having a hand in 'breaking' the will to resist talking with our intgerogators, and percipatated an environment where they could talk with honor (how ever strange that sounds) to our people under standard interview processes. For example, it is reported that KSM asked that we subject all 'brothers' to that process so that they could cooperate with honor.

    So, now that Obama has stopped anything short of the Army field manual in terms of questioning AQ detainees, IMHO it would have served NO purpose to have brought in OBL alive. There is nothing we could do today to get intel out of him thanks to Obama neutering us.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    good hard detective work by the CIA that we got him.
    yup, and it took years

    and it couldn't have been accomplished without detention, the maintenance of gitmo, wiretapping and eit's

    credit goes to two presidents for putting in place and leaving in place the anti terror methodologies that resulted in this assassination

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