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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    I didn't find Marc Thiessen's name in the list of CIA officials.

    Would you please give me a link to Marc Thiessen's knowledge and involvement with the CIA.
    LOL He's just a speech writer.


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LOL He's just a speech writer.
    Yo didn't view the link either, did you?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I'm gonna sway towards Boo's dark side for a sec...but just for a sec

    Do you think national revenge, support of torture and indescriminate killing are American values?
    I think protecting ourself and wiping out the terrorist that have killed Americans is a good thing. I refuse to support terrorist and will never go out of my way to defend them. In my world they do not deserve respect nor rights. What they deserve is DEATH. If that makes me someone that is not full of warm and fuzzy so called American "values" to you and others? Oh frigging well. I can live with it
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Yes actually, now I do.
    It shows these terrorist that we are not to be messed with and this is the way it should be. Not looking like little pussypunks by giving a crap about the rights of of the likes of Bin Laden.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    It shows these terrorist that we are not to be messed with and this is the way it should be. Not looking like little pussypunks by giving a crap about the rights of of the likes of Bin Laden.




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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Lol...you make it sound like we cut heads off our captives. A little stress and duress here and there...is what we use
    Which is what they would do to all of us if given the chance. Excuse the hell out of me if I am not gonna cry over a few asswipes getting waterboarded. lol.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Most accounts claim that the name supplied by KSM was just a nickname, not a real name
    no, all accounts make that claim

    that alone would not have been of much use unless it was associated with other information gathered through the years
    ksm became the "preeminent source," he conducted "terrorist tutorials," according to cia's ig report as released by holder's doj on the monday preceding aug 29, 2009, as reported by wapo

    ksm became an "unparalleled source," helped build a network of 70 names, cluing langley in to aq's methods and mindsets

    operatives were rounded up, they were "leveraged" and "cross referenced," using info ksm and others provided

    If credit is to be given to Bush for his "torture" techniques in gathering such information, shouldn't we question why he didn't do anything with the information
    it took years to track down the leads, the key break didn't come for 4 years until a phone call to al kuwaiti was monitored

    this mission wasn't accomplished by bush or obama, it was made possible by years of legwork and 40 minutes of heroism

    tho both presidents deserve credit for the policies they put in place or left there which made it all happen

    and the current occupant earns his due for having the guts to make the call

    I understood water boarding was no longer used
    it wasn't, it isn't, only 3 were waterboarded, zebaydah, ksm and al nashiri, tho ghul and libi were eit'd

    all but nashiri provided crucial leads that allowed us to get ubl

    but eit's are only part of the story---detention, the maintenance of gitmo, aspects of the patriot act (warrantless wiretapping)---also contributed to this assassination

    your questions have been answered a dozen times on this thread, read the links

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I think protecting ourself and wiping out the terrorist that have killed Americans is a good thing. I refuse to support terrorist and will never go out of my way to defend them. In my world they do not deserve respect nor rights. What they deserve is DEATH. If that makes me someone that is not full of warm and fuzzy so called American "values" to you and others? Oh frigging well. I can live with it
    Buuuuuuuuuttt....Aren't we better than they are? Don't you believe in our legal system?

    Don't you believe that Justice can end with the death of the terrorists but we should ensure we are doing it right and bring them to the bar of justice without resorting to their tactics???

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Buuuuuuuuuttt....Aren't we better than they are? Don't you believe in our legal system?

    Don't you believe that Justice can end with the death of the terrorists but we should ensure we are doing it right and bring them to the bar of justice without resorting to their tactics???
    their tactics involves killing innocent people be it journalists getting their heads sawn off to innocent airline passengers being murdered.

    OBL was a hostile combatant

    frankly I like another poster's suggestion that OBL should have been taken alive
    put in a glass box in Times square with his gnads wire up and anyone willing to make a five dollar donation to the victims of OBL's terrorism could hit a button and send a rather nasty cattle prod level shock to OBL's sensitive parts



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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Buuuuuuuuuttt....Aren't we better than they are? Don't you believe in our legal system?

    Don't you believe that Justice can end with the death of the terrorists but we should ensure we are doing it right and bring them to the bar of justice without resorting to their tactics???
    Is this sarcasm? I hope so. Anyways as I have said: OBL was a direct threat armed or unarmed. What is so damn hard for people to understand about this? None of his silly little "rights" were violated. Those that think so need to get the hell over it, suck it up and deal.

    Again: Bin Laden was a direct threat to all of us and we did what should have been done. Period.

    BTW, I thought Obama did a very good interview w/ 60 Minutes. He is a wonderful leader.
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