Page 111 of 146 FirstFirst ... 1161101109110111112113121 ... LastLast
Results 1,101 to 1,110 of 1460

Thread: Osama Bin Laden is dead

  1. #1101
    Sage

    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Last Seen
    10-10-16 @ 10:59 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    6,073

    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    he became "cooperative," "to an extraordinary extent," he went thru "transformation" and "reversal" and became langley's "preeminent source" only after "his spirit was broken in the month after his capture" when he was subjected to extremely harsh eit's in east europe
    Cite the source for that statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    at this point, anyone who attempts to deny that eit's played an important role in the "transformation" of langley's preeminent source lacks credibility
    The ex-military interrogators disagreed. Are you saying they lack credibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the road to the courier led thru ksm, zebaydah, ghul and al libi---all were eit'd

    it also appears to have relied on warrantless wiretapping
    It's been suggested that bin Laden didn't use electronic communication. If that's true, how could be wiretapping have been relevant?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    col herrington concludes by anguishing over the execution instead of capture of ubl

    col herrington certainly is

    wise, that is

    kinda like hamlet, herrington thinks a lot, and deeply

    but assassinations are good and belly slaps are bad?

    ever heard of good cop/bad cop?

    herrington sounds to me like he'd make an outstanding good cop, and that's worth something

    like i said, more power to him

    either way, america owes great thanks to president obama for not dismantling the anti terror policies of his predecessor---gitmo, detention, the patriot act---thus allowing our agents and soldiers to make this happen
    Any terrorist worth his salt could easily circumvent all those annoying measures (i. e. thru 512-bit encryption, which the NSA cannot break, through custom coded signals, through not using electronic communication, . . .).

    And the fact that Wikileaks is still up and running pretty much proves how ineffectual those measures are.

  2. #1102
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    New York
    Last Seen
    12-13-17 @ 12:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    11,691

    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Al Qaeda has now also confirmed Bin Laden's death. From USA Today:

    Al-Qaeda has confirmed Osama bin Laden's death in an Internet statement, The Associated Press reports.
    Al-Qaeda confirms bin Laden's death, threatens more attacks on Americans -

  3. #1103
    Sage
    ric27's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Last Seen
    06-15-17 @ 02:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    7,539

    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Al Qaeda plan from the start. This is phase 2 of the global insurgency.

    Phase 1 is confronting the obstacles (the US government) and Phase 2 is the global insurgency against the supporters of the "apostate" governments ... it is a continuing insurgency.

  4. #1104
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    And the bogus CIA propoganda falls down when confronted w/former insider experts who are able to speak freely. . .

    Military interrogators: Waterboarding didn't yield tips that led to bin Laden - CSMonitor.com
    Harrington is a serial complainer against everything the military does and will always have a ready audience from the international Left and America's enemies.

    Army Col. Stuart Herrington on American Interrogation Policy - By Tom Ricks | The Best Defense

    He is wrong again.

  5. #1105
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Did the CIA actually say anything about waterboarding yielding tips? Or was it instead politicos?
    It was the head of the CIA and those involved with the CIA.

  6. #1106
    Ideologically Impure
    Simon W. Moon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Fayettenam
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:39 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    16,953
    Blog Entries
    5

    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He is wrong again.
    Called him a name then said he was wrong. Not much of a rebuttal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It was the head of the CIA and those involved with the CIA.
    Panetta said that the waterboard yielded vital information?
    I may be wrong.

  7. #1107
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    It's also worthwhile to note that terror expert and author Marc Thiessen told Bill O’Reilly last night that Barack Obama eliminated the enhanced interrogation tool from US counter-terrorism arsenal his second day in office.

    This means the advantage that got the information from KSM and two others and which led to Osama Bin Laden has been lost and is no longer in use. The US has not captured, detained or interrogated a single high level detainee since Barack Obama moved into office.

  8. #1108
    Ideologically Impure
    Simon W. Moon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Fayettenam
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:39 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    16,953
    Blog Entries
    5

    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Cite the source for that statement.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...k_Muhammad.pdf
    How a Detainee Became An Asset - washingtonpost.com
    I may be wrong.

  9. #1109
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Called him a name then said he was wrong. Not much of a rebuttal.
    Panetta said that the waterboard yielded vital information?
    I posted a link wherein he is extremely critical of everything the US military does, including its obvious successes. He's the go-to guy for anyone who wants a quote critical of the US Military. You may as well ask Al Q their opinion.

  10. #1110
    Ideologically Impure
    Simon W. Moon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Fayettenam
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:39 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    16,953
    Blog Entries
    5

    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This means the advantage that got the information from KSM and two others and which led to Osama Bin Laden has been lost and is no longer in use.
    According to the IG report that all of these articles are based on, it's not at all clear that EITs were necessary or more useful than other methods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The US has not captured, detained or interrogated a single high level detainee since Barack Obama moved into office.
    Idk how true this is, or how high of a bar "high level" has to be for this to be true;however,


    To be fair ObL was detained. and they may have asked him some questions.
    I may be wrong.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •