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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ushaditcoming View Post
    Thanks for the link Simon. I read that carefully before I began here and concluded that it didn't forbid discussion of the fact that Osama could still be alive. If the mods want to push it then that's fine with me. I'll start a thread that centers around the theory that Osama could be alive. I like to play by the rules right up until the mods make it impossible to speak freely.

    I do note though that on my very first day a person of your mindset shows up and attempts to censor what he doesn't like to hear. I'm not surprised as it's indicative of the quality of debate here. THis needs to improve and I'll be doing my best to help do that. We don't need trolls who want to keep it on their personal track do we!

    so what was your last username here



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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That would be inhaling... swallowing goes to the stomach...



    Not when you also deny it. Waterboarding is not torture, except to little girly-men that go to stylists instead of barbers.
    O.O ....... I would see you experience this "non torture".

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ushaditcoming View Post
    I do note though that on my very first day a person of your mindset shows up and attempts to censor what he doesn't like to hear.
    ^For multiple reasons and on more than one point, I doubt you're correct about w/e you're talking about here. ^
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    O.O ....... I would see you experience this "non torture".
    you gonna follow me from thread to thread and heckle? Come on....you can have any, I told you.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    he goes out of his way in his report to say that the efficacy of EITs are not clear
    sorta

    the cia's ig report released by doj on the monday preceding august 29, 2009, as reported by wapo, says "his work did not put him in a position to reach definitive conclusions about the effectiveness of particular interrogation methods"

    "certain of the techniques," helgerson said in an interview, "seemed to have little effect, whereas waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information, but we didn't have the time or resources to do a careful, systematic analysis of the use of particular techniques with particular individuals and independently confirm the quality of the information that came out"

    he's hardly going out of his way in any assertion, either way

    the ig, however, also describes a ksm who was extremely resistant ("an avowed and truculent enemy") until he was waterboarded in the month after his capture, when "his spirit was broken," after which he "cooperated, and to an extraordinary extent," conducting "terrorist tutorials" and becoming langley's "preeminent source on aq"

    "mohammed was an unparalleled source in deciphering al qaeda's strategic doctrine, key operatives and likely targets"

    "detainees in mid 2003 helped us build a list of 70 individuals----many of whom we had never heard of before---that aq deemed suitable for western operations"

    "cross-referencing material from different detainees and leveraging information from one to extract more detail from another, the cia and fbi went on to round up operatives both in the united states and abroad"

    and that the length of detainment may have played a factor
    no mention of length of stay, not in the ig's report made public by doj in august, 09

    He does note that EIT increase the volume of reports coming out of a detainee, but that the quality is a separate matter from the quantity.
    nonsense, not a word goes that way, at least not in wapo's account

    How a Detainee Became An Asset - washingtonpost.com

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    You know, as a kid, I had a near drowning experience once. I wouldn't have been able to tell you my own name when it was all going on.
    Birthers: God's way of telling Darwin "Take that!"

    We're dealing with master Satanists here. The fact that there's no evidence proves that it's true.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ushaditcoming View Post
    Fact is I may have already been banned from this forum under a different name. If that's the case and they find I have I won't need to make a decision on whether to stay or leave. Can't help them with my former name though as there have been too many to remember.
    My guess is yous had it coming.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by gekaap View Post
    You know, as a kid, I had a near drowning experience once. I wouldn't have been able to tell you my own name when it was all going on.
    I'm happy it ended well for you, but I bet you were talkative after you were saved, right?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Maybe we should conduct wars with giant nerf guns, and have time outs at outback steak house when one sides flag is captured.....


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe we should conduct wars with giant nerf guns, and have time outs at outback steak house when one sides flag is captured.....


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