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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    you don't drown from swallowing water....
    Water goes into the lungs. That is drowning.

    appeal to emotion, try again boo.
    Nothing wrong with a proper emotional appeal, however, I spoke of laws and history. This really should not be a question.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Water goes into the lungs. That is drowning.
    That would be inhaling... swallowing goes to the stomach...

    Nothing wrong with a proper emotional appeal, however, I spoke of laws and history. This really should not be a question.
    Not when you also deny it. Waterboarding is not torture, except to little girly-men that go to stylists instead of barbers.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    It's not a case of not liking your username, I just think you are in danger of letting your impulse to provoke override your desire to debate. As far as my agenda, well I'm a libertarian socialist. I am critical of US foreign policy in many respects. Ask the Rev, we've butted heads on occasion. My agenda is to maximise rational discussion and minimise posturing and token politics.
    To begin with, don't fret over how my username is going to be accepted. I long ago found that it stimulates debate that would otherwise wouldn't be debated. Don't assume you know what's right and wrong with a username.

    I've tried and failed to get an analytical discussion going on the Osama issue on another thread but had to admit that many, many DP posters are not in any mood to analyse until they've got a little triumphalism and schadenfreude out of their systems... and I respect that actually. Several posters here have lost friends and family at the hands of Bin Laden and his crew, many are or have family members serving in the forces. I'm not about to criticise them for feeling a sense of relief, closure, triumph or satisfaction, much as I might have been totally opposed to the Iraq war and the 'War on Terrorism'.
    Let them do their mourning if they like. I have little sympathy for them as it's more a celebration of death than anything else right now. But I'm patient too. I'll be glad to help you debate the issue and my username will probably stimulate more debate than is usual on this forum. Maybe even a bit of intelligent debate which incidentally, I haven't seen much of yet.

    To a lot of people, whether they chose it or not, this issue is far more than an internet debate, so however strongly you feel about this issue, show a little restraint and common human understanding rather than just pursuing your intellectual train of thought and damn the consequences. I probably agree with you more than 90% of other people on DP, but there are ways and ways of conducting a debate depending on time and context.
    I'm going to do as I choose within the rules. I don't reallly care all that much about anything else. You need to stop belabouring the issue of my username. Just watch how it is received here and you may be surprised. In the past it's always brought out both the best and the worst in people.

    Actually I tire quite quickly of stupid people doing nothing but namecalling, insulting, and doing what makes them look good. Or tough, whatever. I'm not encouraged from what I see here so far. You being the exception. Just stop worrying about my username because it's betraying your feelings to do so.

    And for the mods: Fact is I may have already been banned from this forum under a different name. If that's the case and they find I have I won't need to make a decision on whether to stay or leave. Can't help them with my former name though as there have been too many to remember.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    The reason why I mistake you for American is only because I don't have enough interest in you to remember your name and your country. I could care less. Keep reminding me and I may remember when you become of some consequence to me.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    tell it to the inspector general of the cia
    AFAICT, he goes out of his way in his report to say that the efficacy of EITs are not clear and that the length of detainment may have played a factor. He does note that EIT increase the volume of reports coming out of a detainee, but that the quality is a separate matter from the quantity.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    I'be skipped over about 10 pages of worthless babbling. If anyone had something worthwhile to say to me please repeat it if it's worth repeating. No military posturing please.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ushaditcoming View Post
    I'be skipped over about 10 pages of worthless babbling. If anyone had something worthwhile to say to me please repeat it if it's worth repeating. No military posturing please.
    LOL!

    here's a link
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...aden-dead.html
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Don't feed the troll.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    BTW Mac, you don't inhale water either. Drowning is suffocation. Then the water may or may not enter the lungs.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Thanks for the link Simon. I read that carefully before I began here and concluded that it didn't forbid discussion of the fact that Osama could still be alive. If the mods want to push it then that's fine with me. I'll start a thread that centers around the theory that Osama could be alive. I like to play by the rules right up until the mods make it impossible to speak freely.

    I do note though that on my very first day a person of your mindset shows up and attempts to censor what he doesn't like to hear. I'm not surprised as it's indicative of the quality of debate here. THis needs to improve and I'll be doing my best to help do that. We don't need trolls who want to keep it on their personal track do we!
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