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    Re: Osama bin laden is dead usa usa usa

    am i really the only pessimist here?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Nice dream you have there
    Well I mean, our original mission has been accomplished.

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    Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post

    This should not be used for politics.
    Please, you can go back to biblical days to find leaders celebrating the deaths of their rivals. I know it pains you to accept that OBL has bin killed on Obama's watch, but there's absolutely nothing you can do to prevent Obama, as the Commander-in-Chief, from receiving accolades for this monumental occasion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post

    What has Obama done different than Bush for him to take credit.
    He doubled our troop strength in that region and turned up the heat in the war in Afghanistan. I give Bush credit for taking the war to them in Afghanistan, but with Bush, that war took a back seat to Iraq.

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post

    It is the Military that should get credit not politicians
    Umm, as Commander-in-Chief, Obama is the leader of our military. That aside, those involved in taking OBL out are American heroes tonight.

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    Re: Osama bin laden is dead usa usa usa

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    am i really the only pessimist here?
    what are you pessimistic about?

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    Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No it isn't. We are better than they are.
    Tell the truth, you went over there and got him didn't you?
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    Re: Osama bin laden is dead usa usa usa

    We, no doubt, have the DNA of some of his relatives.

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    Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    We can only hope his 72 virgins look like this:

    They do look like that. That's why they are virgins.
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    Re: Osama bin laden is dead usa usa usa

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    am i really the only pessimist here?
    You mean because Leon Panetta was just appointed to replace Gates as Secretary of Defense and suddenly Osama is dead?
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Osama bin laden is dead usa usa usa

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    what are you pessimistic about?
    1) I'm for not giving Obama too much of the credit for this one. It happened under his watch, is all.
    2) I don't think in the grand scheme of the War on Terror and our ongoing operations in Afghanistan that this is going to make all that much of a difference.

    I am glad that the mother****er is dead though.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Osama bin laden is dead usa usa usa

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    You mean because Leon Panetta was just appointed to replace Gates as Secretary of Defense and suddenly Osama is dead?
    I'm gonna miss ol' Bobby...
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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