Page 13 of 16 FirstFirst ... 31112131415 ... LastLast
Results 121 to 130 of 160

Thread: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

  1. #121
    Sage
    Dittohead not!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Golden State
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:50 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    41,540

    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    With all due respect, I think China, Russia and Turkey have the best interests of China, Russia and Turkey at heart (respectively, of course). Strange how that works.
    Isn't it though.

    Does the USA really have the best interests of the USA at heart? Sometimes, I wonder.
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

  2. #122
    Professor
    ElCid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    08-14-11 @ 04:39 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    1,784
    Blog Entries
    3

    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    The Sheeple better remember that if we directly sack Quad High Fi, WE WILL BE EXPECTED TO REBUILD LIBYA. We can't afford it. We're already investing BILLIONS in the material transformation of Iraq and Afghanistan into 21st century-countries, when they would NEVER have reached that status on their own. WE NEED TO STOP BANKROLLING THE WHOLE WORLD.
    NOTICE: I am not a troll, because what I write I believe, and I have no intention of derailing threads or manipulating human nature. I am not a terrorist, because I do not endorse the killing of innocent people, and I am not here to promote violence. I AM HERE ONLY TO EXPRESS MY PERSONAL OPINION AND ENJOY LIVELY DISCUSSION.

  3. #123
    Sage
    VanceMack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,677

    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No. The people should decide, that's why we're in Libya.
    Wait...WTF???

    The people should decide...thats why the US bombed Libyans and NATO is continuing to launch air assaults...so...the people of Libya can decide? Dont you mean so the rebels fighting against Gaddaffi can oust him? And then who takes over? Who are the rebels? And why arent we attacking Assad?

  4. #124
    Sage
    Dittohead not!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Golden State
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:50 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    41,540

    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    The Sheeple better remember that if we directly sack Quad High Fi, WE WILL BE EXPECTED TO REBUILD LIBYA. We can't afford it. We're already investing BILLIONS in the material transformation of Iraq and Afghanistan into 21st century-countries, when they would NEVER have reached that status on their own. WE NEED TO STOP BANKROLLING THE WHOLE WORLD.
    Isn't it too bad we didn't figure that out before attempting a nation building project in Afganistan and Iraq?
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

  5. #125
    Mod Conspiracy Theorist
    rocket88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    A very blue state
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,159

    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    The Sheeple better remember that if we directly sack Quad High Fi, WE WILL BE EXPECTED TO REBUILD LIBYA. We can't afford it. We're already investing BILLIONS in the material transformation of Iraq and Afghanistan into 21st century-countries, when they would NEVER have reached that status on their own. WE NEED TO STOP BANKROLLING THE WHOLE WORLD.
    That is the problem, and I'd agree with the general sentiment. Funny how Conservatives are suddenly realizing this, it's part of what Colin Powell was saying the whole time.

    Personally, I think we're making a big mistake by going in "sort of." We're basically setting ourselves up for another terrorist haven to pop up when Khadafi is gone. That started to happen in Iraq too, but at least we were there. At any rate, another exercise in nation building is not something we can afford right now.

  6. #126
    Sage
    ric27's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Last Seen
    06-15-17 @ 02:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    7,539

    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Turkey doesn't oppose the mission, they oppose the killings. Erdogan was bitching about the intervention initially but that isn't the issue anymore.
    Ummm.....what is the issue? Protecting the innocent or killing the innocent?

    *They* oppose the killing but *they* continue to do the killing?

    I'll tell you what the real issue is......Where in hell do we get the right to intervene?

    Do what you want so long as exercising your rights and freedoms doesn't infringe on someone else's rights and freedoms. Ok, thats cool, but remember that also applies to individuals and nations. If we believe in individual freedom, then unless we're hypocritical, other nations have the right to decide what form of government they want. Either that or we decide we're going to be an empire and flat impose our will on people who don't want our rule.

    Try to police your neighbors world and see how far that **** will get you

  7. #127
    Baby Eating Monster
    Korimyr the Rat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Laramie, WY
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 02:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    18,709
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I'll tell you what the real issue is......Where in hell do we get the right to intervene?
    From the same place we get all of our other rights. We have the most powerful military in the world.

  8. #128
    Sage
    kaya'08's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    British Turk
    Last Seen
    05-12-14 @ 01:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    6,363

    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    The Sheeple better remember that if we directly sack Quad High Fi, [/B]
    Is that like a newer version of 3G? Man your funny as hell.
    "If religious instruction were not allowed until the child had attained the age of reason, we would be living in quite a different world" - Christopher Hitchens
    > Good to be back, but I'm only visiting for a few weeks. <

  9. #129
    Sage
    kaya'08's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    British Turk
    Last Seen
    05-12-14 @ 01:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    6,363

    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Ummm.....what is the issue? Protecting the innocent or killing the innocent?

    *They* oppose the killing but *they* continue to do the killing?

    I'll tell you what the real issue is......Where in hell do we get the right to intervene?
    When innocents are being slaughtered and those very innocents are asking you, as fellow human beings, to help them?

    Do what you want so long as exercising your rights and freedoms doesn't infringe on someone else's rights and freedoms. Ok, thats cool, but remember that also applies to individuals and nations. If we believe in individual freedom, then unless we're hypocritical, other nations have the right to decide what form of government they want. Either that or we decide we're going to be an empire and flat impose our will on people who don't want our rule.
    The type of government wanted in Libya has changed, it was changed when they took to the streets and it is them that is asking for the change, not the US. The simple reality is, the notion that "a nation should decide what gov type it wants" is just not true for Arab states. The governments there dont work like they do here. The governments there impose THEIR will on the people, and in the west the people impose THEIR will on the government.

    It is therefore not NATO that is deciding who or how Libya is ruled. It is the Libyan people, and unfortunately the old is trying to cling to the status quo and will kill to ensure that happens. We are merely "aiding" that process of forceful transition.
    Last edited by kaya'08; 05-01-11 at 07:04 PM.
    "If religious instruction were not allowed until the child had attained the age of reason, we would be living in quite a different world" - Christopher Hitchens
    > Good to be back, but I'm only visiting for a few weeks. <

  10. #130
    Verifier
    Gladiator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Your Back Yard
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    3,878

    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    . We are merely "aiding" that process of forceful transition.
    When 3 children are killed by an air strike in a residential neigborhood, it may be an occasion to review NATO targeting practices.


    "The arrest and assassination of Ngô Đ́nh Diệm, then president of South Vietnam, marked the culmination of a successful CIA-backed coup d’état led by General Dương Văn Minh in November 1963. On the morning of November 2, 1963, Diệm and his adviser, younger brother Ngô Đ́nh Nhu, were arrested after the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN) had been successful in a bloody overnight siege on Gia Long Palace in Saigon. The coup was the culmination of nine years of autocratic and nepotistic family rule in South Vietnam. "

    Arrest and assassination of Ngo Dinh Diem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    What happened to the good old days, when the US CIA could pull off a regime change, and the news media would not figure it out for years and years?


    //
    Last edited by Gladiator; 05-01-11 at 07:17 PM.
    _______________________________
    How did Our Oil get under Their Sand?

Page 13 of 16 FirstFirst ... 31112131415 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •