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    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    It was an observation, NOT a personal attack.
    bull****. and what's with the over that side of the atlantic comment?

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    DELIBERATELY targeting children? Is it fashionable now to make baseless and stupid accusations over on that side of the Atlantic?

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    Are you nuts? The purpose of the air force is to destroy all C3I (command, control, communications and intelligence) networks. It is well established that the residence was providing a significant operative advantage to government forces and it was where intelligence and frontline command was being executed.

    Killing Muammer or any children is NOT a NATO objective and i can draw this conclusion from the fact that such an error would be/is a HUGE strategic mistake and golden propaganda for the Libyan regime. NATO isn't stupid - we know from Iraq that there is no silver bullet, killing Muammer will not achieve anything and to suggest innocent children was deliberately targeted is just false propaganda that actually makes no sense from a logistical point of view. Again, you fail to provide evidence of your absurd claims.
    perhaps you could explain then how firing a missile into a family home where there were children was not putting their lives at risk.

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    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    it was more of a sensation - that some people always make victims of our opponents simply because we beat them, and irrespective of who or what they are.
    Except that we didn't beat them. Gadaffi is still in power, still killing other people's children. There is a possibility, in fact, that he made this story up in order to gain sympathy. Osama Bin Laden is still alive and free, and no doubt still working on terrorist attacks.

    Why is that?

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    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Nato still hasn't confirmed the deaths.

    if this is true then the problem i have with this is that a NATO strike was specifically aimed at a private residence. this air-strike on his home during a family gathering (killing young children), is an obvious sign that NATO's aim is to kill Gaddafi - ie regime change - and not to 'protect civilians'- which is far from the remit of the UN resolution.

    clearly 'protecting civillians' is not the number one priority.
    How could NATO confirm? Do they have access to that area. I would think that the only thing they could confirm is the attack, not the deaths and injuries.

    I think it is disgusting that some are celebrating the death of the young children but I guess whatever works for your political agenda.

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    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    bull****. and what's with the over that side of the atlantic comment?
    It mean's you are clearly part of the sizeable minority who base arguments based on crystal ball non-facts in the US political scene.

    perhaps you could explain then how firing a missile into a family home where there were children was not putting their lives at risk.
    Perhaps you could explain to me how NATO could possibly know that Muammer was there at the time and is stupid enough to keep his family housed in a major CI3 hub and NATO target (which was bombed by Reagan before for the exact same purposes)?

    His residence is huge and he left unhurt. So i still don't know how NATO has established the particular room that children where in, so that they could waste bombs killing non-essential targets? The agenda/goal behind such an action? There is none, none to even base a decent conspiracy on.
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    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    How could NATO confirm? Do they have access to that area. I would think that the only thing they could confirm is the attack, not the deaths and injuries. .
    NATO could confirm once they been independently confirmed which i don't believe they have been as yet.

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    I think it is disgusting that some are celebrating the death of the young children but I guess whatever works for your political agenda. .
    agreed.

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    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    It mean's you are clearly part of the sizeable minority who base arguments based on crystal ball non-facts in the US political scene.
    Does the US or any other country have the right to determine who is in charge of another nation (that they haven't defeated in war)?

    Exactly when did, Gaddafi become accountable to Obama's *political scene*?

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    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Does the US or any other country have the right to determine who is in charge of another nation... ?
    No. The people should decide, that's why we're in Libya.
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    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    NATO could confirm once they been independently confirmed which i don't believe they have been as yet.


    agreed.
    Independently by whom? If it is confirmed independently, why do you need NATO to confirm the confirmation?

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    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Does the US or any other country have the right to determine who is in charge of another nation (that they haven't defeated in war)?

    Exactly when did, Gaddafi become accountable to Obama's *political scene*?
    No nation has that right, but the choice wasn't made by the US. It was made by the Libyan people. We aren't there to overthrow the regime, we are there to fulfill the obligations of UN resolution 1973.

    EDIT: Even if this wasn't the case this isn't a US led effort, this is a European led effort. Why this means the US is dictating other nations internal policies is beyond me. This war is being kept at arms length for the US administration.
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    Re: Nato strike kills Gaddafi son

    The game is over for the gaddafi clan!


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