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Obama puts new national security team in place

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WASHINGTON (AP) - Reshuffling his national security team at a crucial time, President Barack Obama is aiming for maximum continuity, installing road-tested players steeped in his policies on diplomacy and war.

Obama was to announce Thursday that CIA Director Leon Panetta will replace Defense Secretary Robert Gates when Gates makes his long-planned exit this summer, a senior administration official said. Gen. David Petraeus, the high-profile commander of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, will replace Panetta at the CIA in the fall, after helping to manage the first steps of a drawdown of U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

Petraeus' job will be filled by Marine Corps Lt. Gen. John Allen, the deputy commander of U.S. Central Command, which oversees U.S. military operations across the Middle East, including Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Iran.

Read more: Obama puts new national security team in place | ksdk.com
 
This is like changing the frame on a bad painting. It does not change the fact the painting still sucks.

Obama is still the bad painting calling the final shots, and he still sucks.
 
Bob Gates was one of the best SecDefs we've had in a long time. I'm sad to see him go. He'll be a tough act for Panetta to follow.
 
afghanistan:

1. why are we there, what is our mission, how is victory defined, what's our exit strategy?

2. july is coming fast

3. ultimate success depends on afghanization, how can that be accomplished with what we have to work with over there?

4. we are as dependent on zardari in pakistan as we are on the corrupt and kooky karzai

5. that is, ultimate success or failure of whatever it is we're doing over there is more reliant on the efficacies of the locals than the valiant efforts of our own troops

6. they are being martyred in afghanistan, by the way, casualties increasing 400% since obama ESCALATED

7. why?

8. why should afghani citizens put their necks out for us when we've already announced we're leaving, knowing what usually happens to collaborationist's necks, that is?

9. more immediately, who familiar with realpolitik would EXPECT cooperation, considering?

10. why did BOB WOODWARD report that OBAMA'S WAR was motivated solely by politics?

11. why did the watergate wonderboy blab our security team doesn't believe we can win?

12. why did hillary's camp leak the day after she told wolf blitzer she would not be back ("no, no, no, no") that she just couldn't take it any more, the indecisiveness in the white house, the amateurs?

13. do you see things differently than mrs clinton?

14. why did mcchrystal say what he said?

15. why were blair and jones jettisoned?

16. why did biden and hillary in the 08 primaries criticize obama for his policy of unilateral action in pakistan, potentially destabilizing the shakiest nuclear power on the planet?

17. why are we in afghanistan in the first place when al qaeda isn't?

18. why is american support for this war spiking downward?

19. obama's rank incompetence has been on unambiguous display since his inauguration, from his amateurish handling of our economy (his senate has failed to produce an itemized budget in 700 days) to his fumbling of our foreign policy (libya, iran, palestine, climate, chinese currency, the cartels...) to his perplexing and upsetting politics (suing arizona, banning drilling, trying to move ksm to manhattan, advocating the mosque, repeatedly talking down the american electorate...)

20. afghanistan, OBAMA'S WAR, is perhaps the saddest example

pray
 
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If Bush was a Cowboy, Obama is a dumb-ass freshman college kid occasionally pulling out an airsoft gun and pretending to be a stone cold killa. He is absofreqinlootely LOST with regard to leadership.
 
more and more americans are coming to see what you've clearly appreciated for a few years

his comprehensive, wall to wall incompetence is simply too in-your-face

pray
 
more and more americans are coming to see what you've clearly appreciated for a few years

his comprehensive, wall to wall incompetence is simply too in-your-face

pray

Heres the sad reality...I think far too many already see it...they are just too blinded by their kneejerk need to defend Dood-1 that they refuse to simply admit...yeah...he's kinda lost with regard to the military and foreign policy. Hell...love everything else about the guy, but if you cant at least be honest, then whats the point?
 
in the virtual world, yeah

but not out there in real life

most americans aren't dogmatic

they see, they can't help but see
 
I love how you guys who decry Obama's leadership offer nothing to defend your position. This is a discussion site, not merely s spitball site. This particular move of Obama's has little to criticize. Gates was leaving, he needed a good secy of def, he got one. He needed Petraeus more in the fold, he got it. Both smart moves.
 
I love how you guys who decry Obama's leadership offer nothing to defend your position. This is a discussion site, not merely s spitball site. This particular move of Obama's has little to criticize. Gates was leaving, he needed a good secy of def, he got one. He needed Petraeus more in the fold, he got it. Both smart moves.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, Syria, yep...nothing to see here...just move on...
 
I love how you guys who decry Obama's leadership offer nothing

GOP budget plan to cut more than $4 trillion - USATODAY.com

love it, hate it, pierce it with the lance of demagoguery, it's there in cold numbers

it's seven hundred days since harry reid's senate produced a budget

if immediate action isn't taken to fundamentally reform our budget then our big 3 social programs will cease to exist in their current form

meanwhile, every two weeks go by cost us another 60 bil we don't have

it is what it is

leadership, anyone?
 
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