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    Circumcision to be banned in San Francisco

    Looks like there's a good chance that circumcision will be banned in San Francisco? Could this be the first step towards banning circumcision in the entire United States? Do you think male circumcision should be illegal or not?

    SAN FRANCISCO A group opposed to male circumcision said on Tuesday they have collected more than enough signatures to qualify a proposal to ban the practice in San Francisco as a ballot measure for November elections.

    But legal experts said that even if it were approved by a majority of the city's voters, such a measure would almost certainly face a legal challenge as an unconstitutional infringement on freedom of religion.

    Circumcision is a ritual obligation for infant Jewish boys, and is also a common rite among Muslims, who account for the largest share of circumcised men worldwide.

    The leading proponent of a ban, Lloyd Schofield, 59, acknowledged circumcision is widely socially accepted but he said it should still be outlawed.

    Read more: Circumcision ban in San Francisco considered - Health - Kids and parenting - msnbc.com

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    Re: Circumcision to be banned in San Francisco

    don't really get what the point is.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Circumcision to be banned in San Francisco

    This is stupid

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    Re: Circumcision to be banned in San Francisco

    It should be the person's choice, when they become an adult (or possibly even a teenager) and they decide they want to mutilate their penis, then they can do so. Parents shouldn't force their infants to have it done to them at birth.
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    Re: Circumcision to be banned in San Francisco

    Commonly accepted genital mutilation as far as I can tell.

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    Re: Circumcision to be banned in San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannosaur View Post
    It should be the person's choice, when they become an adult (or possibly even a teenager) and they decide they want to mutilate their penis, then they can do so. Parents should force their infants to have it done to them at birth.
    Wait, first you say it should be their choice, then you say parents should do it and not give them a choice. Which is it?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Circumcision to be banned in San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Wait, first you say it should be their choice, then you say parents should do it and not give them a choice. Which is it?
    That was a typo.

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    Re: Circumcision to be banned in San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Commonly accepted genital mutilation as far as I can tell.
    Call it mutilation if you like, I prefer to think of it as augmentation.
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    Re: Circumcision to be banned in San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Call it mutilation if you like, I prefer to think of it as augmentation.
    How is it augmenting if a part of your tool is being taken away?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Circumcision to be banned in San Francisco

    Augmentation my bawlz.

    I want my foreskin BACK!

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