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Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

q1 gdp is 1.8%

and they're stuck on mass transit

LOL!

seeya at the polls, progressives

Oh, thats right, mass transit is for the American people. Cons only care about foreign corporate owners & killing troops in oil wars. Thanks for clearing that up for us.
 
oh, Utahbill; we can now of course also add the above to that list of left wing demagoguery and rhetoric:

shintao said:
Cons only care about foreign corporate owners & killing troops in oil wars.


:lol: really, i can't believe how perfectly that worked.
 
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:lol: really, i can't believe how perfectly that worked.

i saw it too

LOL!

to more mature and sober americans, the histrionics most resemble a tantrum

try to stay up, folks

maintain your dignity

or not, to each his or her own

peace
 
That's one of the funniest lines I've seen in awhile, thanks Barb. :lamo

Constituent Arrested At Allen West Town Hall Says She Was Maced In Jail (VIDEO) | TPMDC

:lamo watch this video in link below. The woman is a far left talk show host and a media whore. I'm not surprised if she gave the cops no choice but to mace her if that's even true.
The townhall wasn't open to people yelling out questions. The questions were submitted in written form and West could address them by name. These hecklers were trying to ruin the meeting and West was having none of it. The audience showed their approval by their applause both times people were escorted out.
The video in context will only help West if he chooses to run.

Allen West- “You’re Not Going to Intimidate Me”, Heckler Arrested at Townhall | The Shark Tank

Immediately after Allen West took the stage at his Town Hall meeting on Tuesday Evening in Fort Lauderdale, several hecklers who were planted in the crowd began to jeer and interrupt his remarks, forcing West to pause several times and then continue once the crowd calmed down. Police were ultimately forced to removed one of the hecklers from the event. When the hecklers refused to stop their harassment, West stated, “You’re not going to intimidate me.”
Minutes later, a woman sitting behind West’s wife , who had been acting in a disruptive and combative manner by yelling at the Congressman and even harrassing his wife, was asked to leave and was escorted out of the event by Fort Lauderdale Police. As this unidentified woman was being removed from the proceedings, she continued her tirade and used an expletive to address a police officer, which resulted in the officer arresting the woman for trespassing
 
:lamo watch this video in link below. The woman is a far left talk show host and a media whore. I'm not surprised if she gave the cops no choice but to mace her if that's even true.
The townhall wasn't open to people yelling out questions. The questions were submitted in written form and West could address them by name. These hecklers were trying to ruin the meeting and West was having none of it. The audience showed their approval by their applause both times people were escorted out.
The video in context will only help West if he chooses to run.

Allen West- “You’re Not Going to Intimidate Me”, Heckler Arrested at Townhall | The Shark Tank

I do not mind if she was thrown out for being disruptive, but do you really think she needed to be arrested for that?
 
Issuing a warning doesn't give the claim legitimacy. Certainly oil is not a renewable energy source in the sense that it does not get regularly produced in nature to replace what has been used, but that does not mean the Peak Oil narrative is legitimate.

You do realize that Peak Oil refers to a halfway point, right? Its not running out anytime soon, there's just not going to be an increase in available supply.

The oil industry has admitted to the validity of the peak oil concept.

This and the fact that China is adopting the automobile means the end of CHEAP oil, not any imminent end to the oil supply itself.

And natural gas energy density is MUCH lower than gasolines, so don't forget to include that in your math.:2wave:
 
The year is 2011. Obama has been in office more than half the only term he's going get. When Obama inherited the economy, it managed to, without any help from him, to flatten out and grow slightly.

That means the current dip is 100% his responsibilty. He turned a growing economy into a stagnant but inflating economy (gee, the United States hasn't seen it's buddy stagflation since Carter was kicked out), and chances are good that it's not going to stay stagflated, but go into another full blown recession...with inflation, thanks to the Fed monetizing the debt.

Imagine a world where rewriting history was painful.....
 
I do not mind if she was thrown out for being disruptive, but do you really think she needed to be arrested for that?

Did you watch the video? She was asking for it. No mention of the other heckler being arrested. I guess he went peaceably. People should learn not to get mouthy with the cops because it seldom ends well. However I think that woman wanted to get arrested, so I'm kind of sorry the cops obliged her.
 
It makes perfect sense. Just stop pretending the Leftists have the good future of the United States as their goal, because they don't.

The United States is the only nation not only not exploiting it's natural resources but actively trying to shut down all such operations.

The leftists at the EPA refused a drilling permit to Shell Oil for the North Slope of Alaska because the ice breaker used in their plan would not cause the air in a Eskimoo village 100 km away to exceed the EPA air quality standards.

That's right. The impact would be within EPA standards, so they were denied the permit for ALMOST exceeding them. Since Obama has not fired the head of the EPA over this, Obama should be impeached. This is one of those things that are more important that the latest forged birth certificate.

Wrizzong again.

Chinas official policy is to use the rest of the worlds resources first, keeping their own in reserve for when the rest of the world starts to fight over the scraps.
 
We'll be running out any day now. I've been hearing that for fifty years. Oh well, we can convert our cars to natural gas if the environmental wack jobs would get out of the way.
Peak Oil Debunked: 404. 100 YEARS OF NATURAL GAS[/Qemission]
In Cali you can do that now, as natural gas has cleaner emissions. Is it illegal to convert your car in TX?

Of course not. I'm just saying we should get serious about using natural gas to fuel our cars. That would be a good investment in my opinion.
If Ca is way ahead of everyone else in that regard, I guess I found something good about Ca besides the weather. :)

Edit: The wack job comment was about those who stand in the way of us drilling for the natural gas.
 
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Did you watch the video? She was asking for it. No mention of the other heckler being arrested. I guess he went peaceably. People should learn not to get mouthy with the cops because it seldom ends well. However I think that woman wanted to get arrested, so I'm kind of sorry the cops obliged her.

She was clearly walking backwards and leaving. She just told the cop not to touch her. At no point was she acting violent or posing a threat, and again, she was clearly leaving. I'm just saying it was borderline.
 
She was clearly walking backwards and leaving. She just told the cop not to touch her. At no point was she acting violent or posing a threat, and again, she was clearly leaving. I'm just saying it was borderline.

I agree, she wasn't posing a threat to the cops. However she was disrespecting them and getting in their faces. She was not leaving peaceably. Then she made sure she was being recorded when they put her in cuffs.
 
So far I've yet to see a viable alternative. So let's just stop seeking out fossil fuels and focus on these half-assed alternatives, right? An electric car that can only go 40 miles at 50MPH after an 8 hour charge. My, how efficient. And how exactly is that electricity being made, again? Wind is only 50% efficient, wave energy continues to struggle, solar ain't cuttin' it yet, either.

I really hate the whole, it ain't perfect, so its not worth doing, meme.

The global population explosion is racing up to bite us in the ass while we wring our hands over manufactured nonsense.

Americans used to have a "screw it we'll figure out something else" mentality, instead of this "it works now so fight til you win to keep doing it until it blows up in your face" BS that comes out of the conservative propaganda firehose.

Not attacking you, sorry if it sounds that way. But this is an expensively manufactured lie that I find particularly offensive, so I don't respond well.:2wave:
 
your source says "cities and suburbs", but mass-transit is only really plausible in cities, and between large cities that sees regular commuter traffic. internal to large cities yes. parts of the heavily urbanized north east yes. the suburbs, no. the notion that mass transit is somehow the "ticket to winning the future"? it would be laughable if only it's idiot adherents were'nt so serious.

You do realize that distrbuted production, mass transit, alternative enrgy would cost fossil fuel interests TRILLIONS of dollars in profits, right?

Of course you do. Buttered bread and all that.
 
I really hate the whole, it ain't perfect, so its not worth doing, meme.

The global population explosion is racing up to bite us in the ass while we wring our hands over manufactured nonsense.

Americans used to have a "screw it we'll figure out something else" mentality, instead of this "it works now so fight til you win to keep doing it until it blows up in your face" BS that comes out of the conservative propaganda firehose.

Not attacking you, sorry if it sounds that way. But this is an expensively manufactured lie that I find particularly offensive, so I don't respond well.:2wave:

That's sad. I didn't realize we had given up on wind, solar, electric cars, bio-fuels and all other alternatives to coal and oil.
 
You do realize that distrbuted production, mass transit, alternative enrgy would cost fossil fuel interests TRILLIONS of dollars in profits, right?

Of course you do. Buttered bread and all that.

You do realize that if the global warming hoax is ever truly debunked and cap and trade goes in the crapper, lots of people and other countries will lose out on trillions they expected to gain, right?

Buttered bread and all that.
 
yup. that's what the American people want. and i happen to cling to this quaint notion that they are in charge. but i don't see the individual freedom present in driving your own vehicle to be anything that you describe - on the contrary i find it to be (perhaps uniquely) American. socialized transportation is no better than socialized food or any other such foolish endevour.

Look, ya jackalope, I've been looking for a way around the loss of private transportation since shortly after I started driving.

Population, traffic jams, air pollution, foreign wars for oil, oil spills, speculation, profiteering, socializing risks/expenses, all promise an eventual end to private GASOLINE powered transportation.

Electric has been waiting for batteries, and now they're here. Now we're just waiting for economies of scale to bring prices down.

Embracing electrics also has the side benefit of providing grid storage, upping our efficiency DRAMATICALLY.

Propaganda spread by oil companies(working in their rational self-interest) is the only thing standing in the way.

Thanks for helping. NOT!:2wave:
 
Have you heard of public transportation before? Or bicylces? Or those things at the bottom of your legs. The US uses 25% of the planet's oil. If were to decide to be less wasteful (like most of the rest of the world) demand would lower and so would prices.



The majority of drivers commute less than 40 miles each day.



You are not knowledgable about solar systems. I have a 1.5 KW solar panel system that will pay for itself in 7 years. The remainer of the 25 year life of the panels produces free electricity from the :sun !!!

And I have a few friends with OLD solar panels that are still performing satisfactorily, WELL past their rated lifespan!

The first automobiles SUCKED compared to horses.

But they were fast!

When did Americans lose their drive to lead the world technologically?

To just LIVE on the bleeding edge of the future.

Oh yeah, the 80's. Greed is good. War is Peace. Ignorance is Strength.

BAH!!!:2wave:
 
When did Americans lose their drive to lead the world technologically?

by intentionally bankrupting coal, one of our few remaining industries and source of jobs?

the 2012 obama campaign, here, is coming completely unglued

YouTube - Twilight Zone intro.

at least there haven't been anymore tantrums...

so far

stay up
 
No you can't laugh. I stole that from a conservative here, and he wouldn't like it.:) Socialized transportation is a good name for the government shoving us into mass transit like cattle.

off to the ovens, no doubt....
 
That's sad. I didn't realize we had given up on wind, solar, electric cars, bio-fuels and all other alternatives to coal and oil.

wind and solar are not alternatives, they are supplements.....
 
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