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Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

the worlds' experts have been saying this since the 1890's. I think we'll be fine.

Please quote and reference the US military ever in the past having issuing a warning of peak oil? I'll wait. :sun
 
the cooling world, newsweek, april 28, 1975:

"the evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it"

"meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions, but they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century"
 
a very, very serious post

daniels is a serious man

you must have been watching him pretty closely for awhile

altho you have a link pointing to daniels ENDING COLLECTIVE BARGAINING on his second day in office, folks who don't open your sources might not explicitly take away the knowledge

a masterful post, thanks for putting it all together

I've been hoping for a Daniels candidacy since probably about late 2009, when I first became aware of him. He seems perfectly matched to Republican and American needs in 2012. The problem is his personal history - his wife basically ran off, divorced him, and married another man years ago. Four years later, she had come back and they remarried and happily raised their four daughters. But in a campaign she would be brutalized by left-wing mud-slingers. I can understand why he wouldn't want to expose his wife to them.
 
the cooling world, newsweek, april 28, 1975:

"the evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it"

"meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions, but they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century"

yup. then the experts were sure that we were going to overpopulate and all starve to death in the 1980's
then the experts told us that deforestation was going to leave us all choking to death
and now the experts are telling us that cows farting is going to cause florida to sink beneath the sea

so.... yeah.....

Catawaba: move the goal posts much? I couldn't care less about the military report, either. Peak Oil foolishness has been promising us scarcity since 1894 - yet our reserves keep going up.
 
the cooling world, newsweek, april 28, 1975:

"the evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it"

Nope, it says nothing about a consensus there, and no warnings from a Republican presidential task force as we've had with peak oil.

"meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions, but they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century"

That is actually the opposite of consensus, and no warnings from the US military as we have had with peak oi! :sun
 
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I've been hoping for a Daniels candidacy since probably about late 2009, when I first became aware of him. He seems perfectly matched to Republican and American needs in 2012. The problem is his personal history - his wife basically ran off, divorced him, and married another man years ago. Four years later, she had come back and they remarried and happily raised their four daughters. But in a campaign she would be brutalized by left-wing mud-slingers. I can understand why he wouldn't want to expose his wife to them.

thank you, i did not know about mrs daniels
 
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Now why are ya'all messin' with Cat's religion? You're battling an uphill fight with his belief system on this. Much like trying to convert a radical Muslim to Christianity.

j-mac
 
buses, trains, and the like are only viable options for select, heavily urbanized areas. for the vast majority of the nation they are simply impractical.

how about (i know, this is crazy) letting people decide for themselves what is the best or cheapest way for them to aquire transportation to get to where they want to go?

Fine. You can do that. Just don't blame the President when the price of fuel keeps rising because of increased demand among an incredibly large number of consumers, groups of which are going to the same place anyways.
 
vote obama, 2012!

you're all going to the same place anyways!

LOL!
 
Denmark huh? Think Germany. Everything you hypothesize is wrong. I want you free, no control, no light bulbs. Want to guess again? America will continue it's fall thanks to Capitalism, and the crazy idea we shouldn't do anything until the demand is in critical state, and we have to subsidize some corporation to patch it. We are so far behind the world they have to pump us sunlight.

pump us sunlight? would be funny if it wasn't for the Saudis using the sun to generate electricity to sell to their neighbors...
Do they know something we don't? like we might run out of oil some day?
 
Have you heard of public transportation before? Or bicylces? Or those things at the bottom of your legs. The US uses 25% of the planet's oil. If were to decide to be less wasteful (like most of the rest of the world) demand would lower and so would prices.



The majority of drivers commute less than 40 miles each day.



You are not knowledgable about solar systems. I have a 1.5 KW solar panel system that will pay for itself in 7 years. The remainer of the 25 year life of the panels produces free electricity from the :sun !!!

Damn, someone is doing something other than bitching !!!!
Hey, wanna run for president? The GOP doesn't have a viable candidate yet....
 
a very, very serious post

daniels is a serious man

you must have been watching him pretty closely for awhile

altho you have a link pointing to daniels ENDING COLLECTIVE BARGAINING on his second day in office, folks who don't open your sources might not explicitly take away the knowledge

a masterful post, thanks for putting it all together

He sounds good, and I mean that.....but is he eligible to run?
His grandparents came over from Syria.... will he have problems proving he is not part of a Syrian Terrorist sleeper cell?
or that he was actually born here? WalMart shoppers wonder....
 
Fine. You can do that. Just don't blame the President when the price of fuel keeps rising because of increased demand among an incredibly large number of consumers, groups of which are going to the same place anyways.

i don't blame him for increased demand. i blame him for the cheapening of the dollar and the lack of a consistent US policy to promote stability in the Middle East - both of which are to blame for the hikes in the price of gasoline. The cheap dollar screwed us back in 2008, and it's what's happening now. Demand actually fell in 2008 and 2009, which masked the effects.
 
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I've been hoping for a Daniels candidacy since probably about late 2009, when I first became aware of him. He seems perfectly matched to Republican and American needs in 2012. The problem is his personal history - his wife basically ran off, divorced him, and married another man years ago. Four years later, she had come back and they remarried and happily raised their four daughters. But in a campaign she would be brutalized by left-wing mud-slingers. I can understand why he wouldn't want to expose his wife to them.

left wing mud slingers? what a joke... the mud slingers I know are all "far right" handed.
Besides, SHE isn't running for office, HE is. And I bet the left won't be attacking her for promoting healthy diets like the "right" did the current first lady...
 
left wing mud slingers? what a joke... the mud slingers I know are all "far right" handed.

do you really want me to go find you all the house-ni**er references to Condoleeza Rice, the personal attacks on Sarah Palins' children, so on and so forth?

:roll: either you are being sarcastic, or you are partisan beyond the ability to reason objectively.

Besides, SHE isn't running for office, HE is.

yeah. neither was bristol palin. people are ugly and the left-wing movement of today seems particularly classless; whether it's threatening children in their homes because their fathers are bankers, or trashing Wisconsins' capital and committing to a nation-wide campaign of vandalism. Tea Party Protesters, by contrast, pick up their own trash.
 
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There's an effort going on to draft Allen West. If that happens, Obama may as well give up now.

Don't be so sure. I have already begun restarting ACORN 2.0 where I will get every jobless bum, unionized slob, and homosexual to vote fourteen times each for Obama. Your only hope is James O'Keefe! You better hurry and donate to him since last I heard he was quite broke!! :(

(I am thinking about changing it from ACORN to PECAN though so that people won't catch on so quick)
 
meteorologists are not climatologists

and time and newsweek aren't glenn beck

damen (geoscience professor and chief scientist at laboratory isotopic geoscience, arizona state university) and kunen (senior environmentalist at environmental studies laboratory, university of utah research institute), 1976:

"at this point the world's climatologists are agreed on only two things: we do not have the distance of 10,000 years to prepare for the next ice age, and how carefully we monitor our atmospheric pollution will have a direct bearing on the arrival and nature of this weather crisis"

YouTube - Global Cooling: The Coming Ice Age
 
do you really want me to go find you all the house-ni**er references to Condoleeza Rice, the personal attacks on Sarah Palins' children, so on and so forth?

:roll: either you are being sarcastic, or you are partisan beyond the ability to reason objectively.



yeah. neither was bristol palin. people are ugly and the left-wing movement of today seems particularly classless; whether it's threatening children in their homes because their fathers are bankers, or trashing Wisconsins' capital and committing to a nation-wide campaign of vandalism. Tea Party Protesters, by contrast, pick up their own trash.

I must not watch the right news, never heard of C. Rice being treated that way. Surely the right is more rabid in its approach....I mean, really, attacking the first lady over her efforts to improve the diets of the nations poor?
Nationwide vandalism? Exaggerate much?
The TP thinks it elected "its own", time will tell.
 
and time and newsweek aren't glenn beck

damen (geoscience professor and chief scientist at laboratory isotopic geoscience, arizona state university) and kunen (senior environmentalist at environmental studies laboratory, university of utah research institute), 1976:

"at this point the world's climatologists are agreed on only two things: we do not have the distance of 10,000 years to prepare for the next ice age, and how carefully we monitor our atmospheric pollution will have a direct bearing on the arrival and nature of this weather crisis"
YouTube - Global Cooling: The Coming Ice Age

College professors can be wrong, heck, ANY prof can be wrong.
now, the bolded part of your post......no, we don't have 10,000 years, it might be only 5,000 or as much 20,000.
THEY DONT KNOW !!!! The next line, "how carefully we MONITOR"....sounds like they are trying to justify another climate study so they can apply for grants and eventually tell us what we already know, that the climate changes, and over very long periods of time we get warm spells, and we get cold spells.
whoop de doodoo
 
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