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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    John McCain spoke to this point when he voted last year against drilling in ANWR. He said, "We ought not drill in the Everglades, we ought not drill in the Grand Canyon, and we ought not drill in ANWR!
    ANWR can be drilled from a very small 2000 acre footprint already designated.
    Tourism in ANWR is minimal.
    We can drill there any time now, as far as I am concerned.
    AS far as being a strategic reserve, shouldn't our reserve be in a more accessible place?
    But I still say we should work on efficiencies and conservation more, so we need less energy of all kinds.
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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

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    ANWR can be drilled from a very small 2000 acre footprint already designated.
    Tourism in ANWR is minimal.
    We can drill there any time now, as far as I am concerned.
    AS far as being a strategic reserve, shouldn't our reserve be in a more accessible place?
    But I still say we should work on efficiencies and conservation more, so we need less energy of all kinds.
    The 2000 acre foot print is missleadiing due to the pipelines or roads required to take the oil from the well head to the battery site for initial processing. The area that would be effected would be far greater then just 2000 acres
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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The 2000 acre foot print is missleadiing due to the pipelines or roads required to take the oil from the well head to the battery site for initial processing. The area that would be effected would be far greater then just 2000 acres
    and would be about as bad an eyesore as a windmill farm in Texas....out in the sticks where only a few hundred people per year might see it.
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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The 2000 acre foot print is missleadiing due to the pipelines or roads required to take the oil from the well head to the battery site for initial processing. The area that would be effected would be far greater then just 2000 acres
    OMG. ROADS?!?! Good heavens, not ROADS!!! why, there are only 586,412 square miles in Alaska, wherever will they put them all??

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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    John McCain spoke to this point when he voted last year against drilling in ANWR. He said, "We ought not drill in the Everglades, we ought not drill in the Grand Canyon, and we ought not drill in ANWR!
    yes. chalk that up as reason #219 why Republicans should be glad that Obama beat him.

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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The coast lines are beautifull because of the lack of oil washing up on shore and the lack of visiable oil platforms.
    oil lapping up on shore so far has been a result of the banning of close-drilling. we pushed the rigs out past the technology and that's where we had trouble. rigs that are in our shallower water don't have those troubles because we're not pushing them out past our solid abilities.

    as for the sight - really? of several miles? i doubt people will on the beach will complain that if they were to hop in a boat and ride for 20 minutes they would be able to see a rig. hell, i would love to see a rig, though i would be (stupidly) tempted to get drunk and make wagers with my friends as to who could swim out to one fastest. Seeing a rig would tell me that the local region had a good steady flow of income and was helping to power America.

    Our coasts and our shale isn't a "reserve", it's a resource, and it's a massive one. When the transition comes (many many many years hence) it will come gradually; it's not like we're going to wake up one night and oops all the oil is gone now where did I put it last... oil supply will slowly dwindle and cost will slowly rise and innovations to pick up the slack will slowly get integrated. We needn't keep ourselves poorer now just so that we will have less disposable wealth to help us make the transition then.

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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yes. chalk that up as reason #219 why Republicans should be glad that Obama beat him.
    Obama didn't beat McCain as much as McCain sabotaged his own campaign. I think Romney could have beat Obama, but it was McCain's turn at bat.
    The GOP needs a new strategy, one that involves new blood, new thinking. Old is so passe'.
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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yes. chalk that up as reason #219 why Republicans should be glad that Obama beat him.


    We all vote for whom we consider to be the lesser of evils. Who's your favorite to win the short straw draw on the GOP side to have to run against Obama this time?
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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    ANWR can be drilled from a very small 2000 acre footprint already designated.
    Tourism in ANWR is minimal.
    We can drill there any time now, as far as I am concerned.
    AS far as being a strategic reserve, shouldn't our reserve be in a more accessible place?
    But I still say we should work on efficiencies and conservation more, so we need less energy of all kinds.
    Obama getting the increased CAFE standards alone saved more oil than could be produced from ANWR, and we still have that strategic reserve for the future and have not spoiled one of the few pristine wilderness areas left in the world.
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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Funny that some dumbass conservatives don't think the problem can be fixed overnight, but they think the problem just happened because of Obama
    No, but the liberals fought oil drilling even under Bush. Remember "Drill baby drill", and how you guys said oh it will be ten years before you see a drop. Well had we started we'd be a lot closer by now, not to mention no one ever provided evidence it would take ten years.
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