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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    :shrug : the effective tax rate for the poor under the Fair Tax is less than it is under the current system.
    not only does the prebate remove taxation on all spending up to the poverty level (which of course makes up a larger percentage of their income), but it gets rid of the regressive payroll tax. That's one of the many reasons I would favor it - much like wal-mart; it's good for the poor.
    So much disingenuity in such a short post.

    I said a consumption or Flat Income tax rate.
    Neither of which you disagreed with.
    So I will assume/Say for you, that In both of those cases... I am correct. You cannot disagree.

    So instead of a genuine reply, you bring up only ONE consumption tax not even mentioned. Your only out to my true statement; The Fairtax. Because it has a prebate with Abates the regressivity of Other consumption/sales taxes which do Not.

    However, since the Fairtax is stated at a phony low rate (on which all income groups taxes would ostensibly go down), it isn't true even in that case.
    If figured at the independently/multiply scored rate or 56%, the prebate is woefully inadequate at preventing the destruction of the poor... too.
    Fairytax taxes, Food, Rent (which many poor people pay rather than own), Prescriptions, Medical procedures... everything.

    You also drop/Misquote The "middle" from my "poor/Middle" to enable you to even make your qualified reply in re the Fairtax! The only one of the consumption or Flat taxes that you can even attempt debate with.

    While your post looks like a reply- it instead is a disingenuous attempt to pick off One income group and One single of the consumption taxes, indeed a specific and lone one of them.
    But even then .. fails.
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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    nope I think i'll let you do your ihateihateihatethefairtaxihavetobringitupallthetim e routine on your own. go start a thread about how much you hate the fair tax and touch yourself as you endlessly repeat your mantra's there - this thread is about wal-mart.

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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    nope I think i'll let you do your ihateihateihatethefairtaxihavetobringitupallthetim e routine on your own. go start a thread about how much you hate the fair tax and touch yourself as you endlessly repeat your mantra's there - this thread is about wal-mart.
    IOW....
    Your semantic trickery was outed and Have to Fold.

    Cpwill can only even make an attempt at debate with one/Fairtax and Only with the poor.
    Not the "poor/Middle" as posed.
    He cannot tackle/refute the Regressivity of a simple "Consumption or Flat Income tax" .. as posed.

    His only attempt was to pick off "poor" from "Poor/Middle". And grasp at the Unmentioned 'Fairtax' as the Only consumption (or Flat Income) tax he could even attempt to deal with.

    Game Over.

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    There is STILL Not even attempted disagreement with the Truth of my original statement about the Destructive regressivity of a "consumption or Flat Income tax" on the "Poor/Middle".
    It remains Unrefuted; indeed Unattempted except for an Isolated case and group for which it is also wrong.

    That was the real if completely Unwitting bite of this string.
    How close to the edge so many live and that they Cannot be taxed any higher level.
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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    yup. and I couldn't care less about your fair tax rants. got anything on the subject of the thread?

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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    {{sigh}} I want a president who says, "I'll do my best to make sure we have enough cheap energy that you can drive what you want and keep your homes at 72 degrees all yr long if you want. I don't give a hoot if other countries like it or not. My job is to serve you, the American people. We will start the process of using our own natural resources and we will start today".
    Something like that anyway. I'm sick of a president who's idea of improving things is cramming us into socialized transportation, or onto bicycles. Our President should have bigger dreams than that for the country.
    And that is where the term "Ugly American" comes from. It's all about me, me, me, I want this, I want that.... why don't you try thinking of everyone as human with the same basic rights as you? I say this because you clearly have no problem exploiting poorer countries so you can drive your SUV around and keep your house at 72 degrees all year, it's sad really.

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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I believe the free market goes into action when something is wanted/needed/ and is profitable.
    Mass transit is none of those things in most of the country.
    What do you have against people being free to walk out of their homes, pull the car out of their garage and drive to their destination, independent of socialized transportation?
    What do you have against someone being free to walk out their door, jump on a bus and be driven to their destination?

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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    To see why this "petition" is bogus check here - "Petition Intentionally Misleading"

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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well, we should be saying that combating pollution is a good thing no matter if global warming is a massive left-wing conspiracy to bankrupt the coal companies and usher in a socialist utopia or not. The partisan rhetoric going on here is insane. I am literally convinced that if Obama woke up tomorrow and said "I changed my mind, global warming is a hoax" some people here would suddenly change sides.

    Can't we just agree that less pollution is a good thing? Global warming or not, if you think car exhaust is good, go breathe it for 5 minutes and tell me how that works out for you.
    hear hear! awesome.

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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Since you'll be voting for Obama again, it's not your problem.
    I voted for the loser, knew he was the loser as I voted for him. McCain/Palin combo was the worst the GOP could have come up with, makes me wonder if they did it on purpose. I mean, can anyone be that stupid accidentally?
    The GOP screwed up, lost their way, and the voters decided it was time for a new man in the WH....that's how it is, deal with it....
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    Re: Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Can the liberal left at least stick to blaming presidents who are still alive?
    and the parties that gave birth to them? oh wait, the parties are a long lived entity, with a very bad memory.
    An election is coming up, who will the GOP call?
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