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Barbbtx said:
I believe the free market goes into action when something is wanted/needed/ and is profitable.
Mass transit is none of those things in most of the country.
What do you have against people being free to walk out of their homes, pull the car out of their garage and drive to their destination, independent of socialized transportation?
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What do you have against someone being free to walk out their door, jump on a bus and be driven to their destination?
 
rocket88 said:
Well, we should be saying that combating pollution is a good thing no matter if global warming is a massive left-wing conspiracy to bankrupt the coal companies and usher in a socialist utopia or not. The partisan rhetoric going on here is insane. I am literally convinced that if Obama woke up tomorrow and said "I changed my mind, global warming is a hoax" some people here would suddenly change sides.

Can't we just agree that less pollution is a good thing? Global warming or not, if you think car exhaust is good, go breathe it for 5 minutes and tell me how that works out for you.
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hear hear! awesome.
 
American said:
Since you'll be voting for Obama again, it's not your problem.
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I voted for the loser, knew he was the loser as I voted for him. McCain/Palin combo was the worst the GOP could have come up with, makes me wonder if they did it on purpose. I mean, can anyone be that stupid accidentally?
The GOP screwed up, lost their way, and the voters decided it was time for a new man in the WH....that's how it is, deal with it....
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Can the liberal left at least stick to blaming presidents who are still alive?
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and the parties that gave birth to them? oh wait, the parties are a long lived entity, with a very bad memory.
An election is coming up, who will the GOP call?
 
cpwill said:
they do? how many volts sold last month?
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you're being misleading - you're making it sound like there isn't demand for the Volt or the leaf which is not the case. The fact is that Chevy and Nissan planned a set number of vehicles to be delivered in 2011, 10,000 in the case of Chevy and 20,000 for Nissan. In the case of Nissan the cars were all pre-ordered before production even began, and GM will deliver 10,000 units as expected.

GM says 10,000 deliveries planned in 2011
Nissan Leaf has 20,000 preorders<< you'll have to read for awhile to see where it says the leaf has 20,000 pre-orders.... just thought I'd mention so people don't jump down my throat when they only give the first sentence a cursory glance.
 
UtahBill said:
I know one republican who might stand a chance, we'll see if he runs...
so far his name isn't on the "favorites" list.
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Who......................?
 
Catawba said:
Who......................?
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I don't think anyone, certainly Not the GOPartisan OP, realized what a 'tell' and and Death Knell this is for a consumption/nat'l sales tax.

Tens of Millions can barely even pay a 20% increase in Gasoline Alone, yet so many here want a National Sales tax of the same or Higher on Everything.

Ruination for individuals and economy.
 
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mbig said:
I don't think anyone, certainly Not the GOpartisan OP, realized what a 'tell' and and Death Knell this is for a consumption/nat'l sales tax.

Tens of Millions can barely even pay a 20% increase in Gasoline Alone, yet so many here want a National Sales tax of the same or Higher on Everything.

Ruination.
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Since Huckabee was the only half serious presidential candidate actually proposing a national sales tax, I think that is a fairly good gauge as to how receptive most of the GOP think the people would be having to paying more, while the rich pay less.
 
Barbbtx said:
{{sigh}} I want a president who says, "I'll do my best to make sure we have enough cheap energy that you can drive what you want and keep your homes at 72 degrees all yr long if you want. I don't give a hoot if other countries like it or not. My job is to serve you, the American people. We will start the process of using our own natural resources and we will start today".
Something like that anyway. I'm sick of a president who's idea of improving things is cramming us into socialized transportation, or onto bicycles. Our President should have bigger dreams than that for the country.
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I think things like High Speed Rail ARE Bigger and.... more intelligent dreams than putting/"cramming" everyone on the freeway at 5PM.
Some of the best countries have it; like France, Japan, etc.
 
Sanosuke said:
you're being misleading - you're making it sound like there isn't demand for the Volt or the leaf which is not the case.
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It's not?


No matter how much Liberals talk up electric cars and their future the fact is nobody really wants to actually own one. Chevrolet’s Volt sold a whopping 281 units in February 2011 and Nissan’s Leaf sold 67 copies. By comparison, Honda sells, on average, more than 5,500 Fits per month and Ford sold 23,111 Fusions.

For March Chevy moved 608 Volts and Nissan sold 298 Leafs.

For April Chevy moved 493 and Nissan sold 573 Leafs.

Now is about the time where a Liberal would tell you that the American consumer “doesn’t understand” why they need a Volt or Leaf or how Americans can’t make “intelligent decisions” about which cars they buy. Environmentalists will chime in saying how Americans “misunderstand” the technology behind the Volt and the Leaf. President Obama will tell how how those two cars are the “future.”

Chevrolet, which initially planned on making 60,000 Volts [Correction: 10,000-15,000 was the initial number] has revised their production numbers to only 10,000 but, at the rate they’re selling, that’s still 50% optimistic.

With all of the billions of dollars the government pumped into Chevrolet, is it really a surprise that car is such a failure? ”Yes we can” has really become a catchphrase for “We won’t succeed” because whenever the best and brightest minds of government get together you never know how far down the ladder of failure you will fall.


Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf: Sales Flop
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ouch! what a great investment we made in GM eh?


j-mac
 
Catawba said:
From the Wiki source:

"As governor, Huntsman listed economic development, health-care reform, education, and energy security as his top priorities." Impressive!

That and the fact that he is an Obama appointee and hasn't questioned Obama's citizenship will rule this guy out as far the GOP base goes however. :sun
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yeah, the ubercon has his hates, and a smart man with a plan is one of them...
but the average conservative should like him for who he isn't, that being one of the current list of wannabes who are proven losers.
 
mbig said:
I think things like High Speed Rail ARE Bigger and.... more intelligent dreams than putting/"cramming" everyone on the freeway at 5PM.
Some of the best countries have it; like France, Japan, etc.
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If there is a need, there should be a demand....
but if there is only a demand, by the public, that isn't necessarily a need or cause enough to build one.

The public in Cache County Utah seemed to think that a transit system was needed...to be fair, they may have been duped by politicians. Ridership is pathetic. Most of the time they are running a bus with only a few people in it. I think a van, or airport type shuttle vehicle, would be more appropriate.
Even tho it is FREE, people don't ride it....
 
j-mac said:
what a great investment we made in GM eh?
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Since they have almost repaid our loan and didn't close down with massive layoffs adding to the unemployment and furthering the recession, it was a great investment, yes! :sun
 
mbig said:
IOW....
Your semantic trickery was outed and Have to Fold.
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no; i have simply learned not to argue with people who stand in the streets muttering angrily to themselves about the special receivers in their head. when you get a guy whose reason for being is wrapped around an unnatural insistence on arguing One Thing And One Thing Only, you're not dealing with a rational individual, and debate is usesless.
 
UtahBill said:
If there is a need, there should be a demand....
but if there is only a demand, by the public, that isn't necessarily a need or cause enough to build one.

The public in Cache County Utah seemed to think that a transit system was needed...to be fair, they may have been duped by politicians. Ridership is pathetic. Most of the time they are running a bus with only a few people in it. I think a van, or airport type shuttle vehicle, would be more appropriate.
Even tho it is FREE, people don't ride it....
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yup. the American people like their cars, and the independence they bring.
 
zimmer said:
Ahhhhhhhhh... the smell of Jimmy Carter II in the air.

It's nice Jimmy the Second has had a laser-like focus on the economy.

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Only Zimmer would think this random statement by a CEO could be considered 'Breaking News'...

And of course Zimmer will tell us all how it's not the gas Co's fault, nor the energy speculators...

Arab Spring? Does Zimmer even know that is?

All he knows is there's a black man in the white house and everything is his fault...:roll::roll:
 
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cpwill said:
yup. the American people like their cars, and the independence they bring.
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what independence? from what?
As long as we are DEPENDENT on others for our energy, we cannot say we have "independence"....
 
UtahBill said:
what independence? from what?
As long as we are DEPENDENT on others for our energy, we cannot say we have "independence"....
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He means more like the independence to be able to just walk to the driveway, get in, and go, whenever and wherever you please. No schedule or route to follow.
 
j-mac said:
It's not?




ouch! what a great investment we made in GM eh?


j-mac
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you obviously didn't read the links I posted... The numbers you posted are correct, but they're in line with the planned delivery for the year. In the Volt's case there isn't a problem with demand (as stated in the article) and in the leaf's case the 20,000 they planned for year were pre-sold before the year even started. Please read before you retort next time.
 
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