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    Re: Afghan officer opens fire, kills 9 Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    What does A-stan have to offer the core? Why should the core spend one life there?

    If you don't know what the core is, Pentagon's New Map.

    Get it here...Amazon.com: The Pentagon's New Map: War and Peace in the Twenty-First Century (9780399151750): Thomas P.M. Barnett: Books

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    Ric...a hypothetical question...

    Your neighbor has a pit bull. Its a fairly well behaved pit bull and stays in its yard. It tends to snarl and snap when kids walk by, but for the most part...it stays in its yard. But you dont like the owner and you dont like the pit bull so one day you hang out by the fence after school. You start yelling at the dog, working it into a frenzy when the kids walk by. The dog breaks free and mauls three children walking by. Do you bear responsibility?

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    Re: Afghan officer opens fire, kills 9 Americans

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    lol....thats intolerant bs

    You're sitting there whining about how intolerant, the Pastor is for mocking a religion (book burning) that is attempting to subvert and destroy the American way of life. I find that incredibly ironic.
    The problem with your perspective is that you're blaming an entire religion for the acts of a fringe group. Thank God the religion is not trying to subvert and destroy the American way of life, there are three times as many Muslims in the world as there are Americans.

    So, once you can get past the sheer misconception that Muslims are out to get us, maybe you'll understand that there are psychos out there in "A-stan" and we're fighting those guys. And those guys have a lot of influence over the laymen in "A-stan" because what we've done is kill the laymen's family, destroy his country, and now, we s**t on his religion too.

    What the f**k would you do if someone did all this? Judging from your attitude and post, you'd be the first to volunteer for a comparable suicide bombing service.
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    Re: Afghan officer opens fire, kills 9 Americans

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    What I know about the law I learned from Law and Order...which means...I know nothing about the law...admittedly...but I dont know that he would not be found legally liable. He already threatened to burn the Koran but then stopped and discussed it indicating he understood there was a potential for his specific act to cause someone else to die. Maybe not criminally...but...Id be suing his ass if my kid was the one hurt because of his dickless gutless spineless act of cowardice.
    I'm not a lawyer either, so I'm not familiar with whether or not he could be pinned with civil liability -- and certainly wouldn't oppose it, if the family members sought retribution.

    Problem I see, though, is with carrying the reaction too far in response to the afghan murderer... his kind wants to stir up this kind of hate and discontent over here to legitimize their own radical positions. And then there's the damn media complex all over this idoit pastor, crooning his tripe for the world to see. Seems like they should be just as responsible as the pastor if a civil suit is brought.

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    Re: Afghan officer opens fire, kills 9 Americans

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    I'm not a lawyer either, so I'm not familiar with whether or not he could be pinned with civil liability -- and certainly wouldn't oppose it, if the family members sought retribution.

    Problem I see, though, is with carrying the reaction too far in response to the afghan murderer... his kind wants to stir up this kind of hate and discontent over here to legitimize their own radical positions. And then there's the damn media complex all over this idoit pastor, crooning his tripe for the world to see. Seems like they should be just as responsible as the pastor if a civil suit is brought.
    So a forced vacation through the Afghanistan countryside, complete with posted itinerary is the answer.

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    Re: Afghan officer opens fire, kills 9 Americans

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    And then there's the damn media complex all over this idoit pastor, crooning his tripe for the world to see. Seems like they should be just as responsible as the pastor if a civil suit is brought.
    I agree with that in this case, but not as a precedent. The media took this crap way too far, and sensationalized it as well.

    The reason Jones should be held liable for the death of those Americans is because they might not have died if he hadn't burned the Korans; if he chose inaction, nothing would have happened. If the media had not reported the story, I get the feeling it would have gotten out, it just would have taken longer, and might have gotten someone else killed at a later time; inaction could still have resulted in the deaths.
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    Re: Afghan officer opens fire, kills 9 Americans

    If the pastor is responsible for the murders of those Americans in any way, civil or criminal, then Clinton is responsible in the same way for mcveighs blowing up the federal building in OKC as he said it was revenge for the killing of innocents in Waco one year earlier. The paperwork against both should be filed together.

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    Re: Afghan officer opens fire, kills 9 Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I agree with that in this case, but not as a precedent. The media took this crap way too far, and sensationalized it as well.

    The reason Jones should be held liable for the death of those Americans is because they might not have died if he hadn't burned the Korans; if he chose inaction, nothing would have happened. If the media had not reported the story, I get the feeling it would have gotten out, it just would have taken longer, and might have gotten someone else killed at a later time; inaction could still have resulted in the deaths.
    That's the problem I have spreading around the guilt in this case. The afghan is the murderer; he should be flayed...

    If we start looking to punish others, adding in hypotheticals, it's just a witch-hunt -- and on top of that, the guy who did the murder wants us to react and go after the koran-burning pastor. Going down that road, though I want to make this dumbass pastor pay, is just the kind of response they want.

    Best case scenario, we just ignore the the baiting pastor, he's worthless trash. The media ignores him too, why report such a story in the first place? It's stupid. Then we take the guy who actually pulled the trigger and make an example out of him. Maybe some good ole' boys will take a baseball bat to the pastor's kneecaps, who knows -- either way, now that this has already led to american deaths overseas, the international media probably wouldn't give two ****s...

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