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    Re: Vermont Senate Passes Legislation That Moves State Toward Single-Payor Health Sys

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    I'm Asian, and it's a general stereotype that Asians are super-cheap. My dad is an example of the exact opposite of what your boyfriend is. Instead of buying new things every once in awhile he'll collect used junk just to have it. He's using a desktop computer that's more than a decade old and runs windows 2000. He's worn the same clothes for like 10 years. He got a fish tank off a listing on craigslist just because someone didn't want their fishtank anymore. And he decided to have pet fish AFTER he got a fish tank. That's like deciding to start a family because you bought a minivan.
    Ahaha! Reminds me of my stepmom. She'll snatch up ANYTHING...then decide later what to do with it. She still wears jeans from high school (30 years ago) and getting her to pony up for new shoes takes a small miracle.
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    Re: Vermont Senate Passes Legislation That Moves State Toward Single-Payor Health Sys

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    The "living within your means" argument. What stuns me into silence is the people who whole-heartedly believe that they have a natural born right to new cars, big homes, flat screens, a luxury boat, etc. Those people who stand in front of their flat screens and video games systems for an interview scheduled so they can complain about a lack of electricity vouchers...it turns me off to the whole system. Perhaps mandatory classes on money management and priorities are in order for those using the system to "survive". Or, maybe a societal shift in values away from materialistic crap?

    To idealistic, right?
    Actually, I think we are saying the same thing. I am fiscally conservative (in a don't spend what you don't have kind of way) and socially liberal. The combination of which I will admit makes my head hurt sometimes.
    I don't think anyone has a "right" to these products. I do however think both sides of the table lenders and lendees need to be MUCH more responsible as a whole. I've been an advocate for about the last five years about having classes that teach sound fiscal responsibility in school. This education would include but not be limited to responsible budgeting, credit risks and management, as well as education on preparing for a sound retirement from an early age.
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    Re: Vermont Senate Passes Legislation That Moves State Toward Single-Payor Health Sys

    good. just as Romneycare in Massachussetts gives us a preliminary view of how Obamacare will falter and fail, Vermont will now be able to provide with an object lesson of what happens when you impose a single payer. labratory of democracy, baby.

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    Re: Vermont Senate Passes Legislation That Moves State Toward Single-Payor Health Sys

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    Vermont Senate Passes Legislation That Moves State Toward Single-Payor Health System | News & Analysis

    Was listening to a debate on NPR on this issue this morning as I was driving to schol. The article isn't too big on details but I'm sure a bit more googling give anyone who's interested deeper insight into the situation and what the legislation covers.
    I've been reading about this, I'm glad you started the thread! I think it is great that Vermont is not waiting on the federal government to try to address the unaffordable health care costs for their residents.

    I remember that Obama offered an opt out for states from the Federal health care reform if states could come up with their own plan that would cut health care cost as much and cover as many people as the federal plan.

    It looks like Vermont decided to take him up on that challenge!
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    Re: Vermont Senate Passes Legislation That Moves State Toward Single-Payor Health Sys

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    Vermont Senate Passes Legislation That Moves State Toward Single-Payor Health System | News & Analysis



    Was listening to a debate on NPR on this issue this morning as I was driving to schol. The article isn't too big on details but I'm sure a bit more googling give anyone who's interested deeper insight into the situation and what the legislation covers.
    It is retarded to create such nonsense at the Federal level, and it is nonsensical at the state level too, but this is where it should be happening if at all.

    The village of Vermont or any state can institute such idiocy despite all the serious storm warnings such systems have issued worldwide... and when they do go to sea with this vessel, smash up on the rocks and bankrupt the state... NO FEDERAL BAILOUTS. You clever clowns ran up the state credit card... pay your debts yourself.

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