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Obama to speak on birth certificate

megrimlock said:
IIRC the president acts as an Editor in Chief of sorts , so he essentially was the head figure of the most prestigious law periodical in the world.
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You forgot a few more:

Executive Director of personal hygeine.

Executive Director of buying smokes.

Executive Director of dressing himself.

Executive Director of vehicle operation.


The list is endless.
 
megrimlock said:
I beg you, enlighten me how I'm wrong and how being in charge of a law review does not constitute as leadership experience. For that matter what executive experience did Lincoln have before being elected POTUS? Using your logic he was a poor choice of president.
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So being in charge of a Law Review is the same as being a State Governor? Governor Palin operated a $9 billion budget and managed $13 billion in revenue and ran a government that employed 25,000 people.

What are the similar stats with that law review?

But of course, as you mentioned President Lincoln. there are other strange and astounding similarities.



1) Lincoln was elected in 1860, Obama was elected in 2008, nearly 150 years later.

2) Lincoln eliminated involuntary servitude. Obama eliminated private sector jobs.

3) Both men had vice-presidents who were illiterate Democrat senators.

4) Andrew Johnson nearly lived to the age of 67. Joe Biden nearly had an IQ of 67.

5) LincOln and Obama each had a single letter "O" in their last name.

6) Andrew Johnson had no middle name. Joseph Robinette Biden has a silly one.

7) JOHN W. BOOTH and BILL C. AYERS each has 10 letters.

8) Neither Lincoln nor Obama ever wrote a book.

9) Lincoln suffered from major depression. Obama caused a major depression.

10) Abraham Lincoln had no middle name. You're not allowed to say Barack Obama's middle name.
 
Ron Mars said:
Geez, you were not kidding. Yikes!

You forgot to add that he's head of his household so that counts as executive experience too. The list there is almost endless:

Executive Director of walking the dog.

Executive Director of the "man cave".

Executive Director of repair and maintenance.

Executive Director of garbage removal.

Executive Director of grounds maintenance.


I’m sure you can think of some more.
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You obviously fail to recognize the importance of the HLR in the legal world. Have you ever pursued a graduate degree? Are you aware of how integral these kind of publications are to their respective fields and this was one of the most important. It's big enough that his appointment was noticed and mentioned by several major newspapers At Harvard Law, a unifying voice - The Boston Globe
In Law School, Obama Found Political Voice - New York Times

Was he a five star general? No. But to call this anything other than leadership experience is stupid.
 
megrimlock said:
IIRC the president acts as an Editor in Chief of sorts , so he essentially was the head figure of the most prestigious law periodical in the world.
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What were his duties and responsibilities?

j-mac
 
Grant said:
So being in charge of a Law Review is the same as being a State Governor? Governor Palin operated a $9 billion budget and managed $13 billion in revenue and ran a government that employed 25,000 people.

What are the similar stats with that law review?

But of course, as you mentioned President Lincoln. there are other strange and astounding similarities.



1) Lincoln was elected in 1860, Obama was elected in 2008, nearly 150 years later.

2) Lincoln eliminated involuntary servitude. Obama eliminated private sector jobs.

3) Both men had vice-presidents who were illiterate Democrat senators.

4) Andrew Johnson nearly lived to the age of 67. Joe Biden nearly had an IQ of 67.

5) LincOln and Obama each had a single letter "O" in their last name.

6) Andrew Johnson had no middle name. Joseph Robinette Biden has a silly one.

7) JOHN W. BOOTH and BILL C. AYERS each has 10 letters.

8) Neither Lincoln nor Obama ever wrote a book.

9) Lincoln suffered from major depression. Obama caused a major depression.

10) Abraham Lincoln had no middle name. You're not allowed to say Barack Obama's middle name.
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You're missing the point of my argument, You condemn Obama on the basis of having no executive experience when the same can be true of plenty of politicians.
 
megrimlock said:
She got asked how what foreign experience she had and her answer was essentially "we're close to Russia and they stop by here alot" Do you not see the idiocy of that?
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Never mind what her answer was "essentially". We can deal with the complete question and her complete answer.

We don't need translations into Leftwingese. There's too much of that already.
 
megrimlock said:
You're missing the point of my argument, You condemn Obama on the basis of having no executive experience when the same can be true of plenty of politicians.
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But you specifically mentioned Sarah Palin and Abraham Lincoln.
 
Grant said:
Never mind what her answer was "essentially". We can deal with the complete question and her complete answer.

We don't need translations into Leftwingese. There's too much of that already.
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And the complete answer was also nonsense.
 
megrimlock said:
You obviously fail to recognize the importance of the HLR in the legal world. Have you ever pursued a graduate degree? Are you aware of how integral these kind of publications are to their respective fields and this was one of the most important. It's big enough that his appointment was noticed and mentioned by several major newspapers At Harvard Law, a unifying voice - The Boston Globe
In Law School, Obama Found Political Voice - New York Times

Was he a five star general? No. But to call this anything other than leadership experience is stupid.
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You are failing to point out that these articles were written by partisan sources long after his stint at Harvard, not during or shortly after his appointment. This was electioneering, not a critical study of any accomplishments he might have had.
 
megrimlock said:
Because they illustrated my point, that executive experience alone does not neccesarly dictate a presidents succes/failure.
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But Palin's executive experience has already been pointed out to you. Didn't you read it?
 
Grant said:
I'd rather have that complete answer and determine for myself whether it was 'complete nonsense' or not, rather than have you define it for me.
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Rhetorical interpretations? On a politcal debate forum? I'm sorry it won't happen again.
 
Ron Mars said:
I already have in this thread.

Find it yourself.
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:lamo In other words, you're not going to provide any evidence. Fine. Then shut it!
 
Grant said:
But Palin's executive experience has already been pointed out to you. Didn't you read it?
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Yes, and the point about her gubernatorial debacle was just to emphasize that Palin's own experince was limited.
 
megrimlock said:
Yes, and the point about her gubernatorial debacle was just to emphasize that Palin's own experince was limited.
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Gubernatorial debacle? The people of Alaska gave her huge approval ratings, at least double what Barack Obama's are right now.

What "debacle" are you referring to?
 
megrimlock said:
Rhetorical interpretations? On a politcal debate forum? I'm sorry it won't happen again.
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Use all the rhetoric you feel comfortable with all but unless you point out exactly what it is you're referring to it seems a waste of everyone's time.
 
Ron Mars said:
Mayor, Governor, CEO, etc.

Actually being in charge of something.

0bama didn't have a days worth of experience when lefties elected him to the most important executive position on the planet.
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Two years after graduating, Obama was hired in Chicago as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side. He worked there as a community organizer from June 1985 to May 1988.[30][31] During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from one to thirteen. He helped set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.[32]

In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year,[36] and president of the journal in his second year.[32][37]

From April to October 1992, Obama directed Illinois's Project Vote, a voter registration drive with ten staffers and seven hundred volunteer registrars; it achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, and led to Crain's Chicago Business naming Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.[43]

From 1994 to 2002, Obama served on the boards of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund the Developing Communities Project, and of the Joyce Foundation.[30] He served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995 to 2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995 to 1999.[30]

Guess you don't know what you're talking about. It's pretty bad that you're ignorance and failings of logic are so bad that you have me defending Obama to you, seeing as I don't like the guy.
 
Ron Mars said:
No I'm not. Never have been.

I do know that 0bama is playing silly political games with this isssue.

All the while 0bama is lecturing Americans about not playing silly political games.

He could have released his original BC anytime he wanted.
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He could've, however...as you said:

Ron Mars said:
Like the holocaust deniers, 9/11 truthers haven't a leg to stand on.

Bush was right to ignore them.
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You don't go out of your way to invade your own privacy more than is needed to attempt to please a bunch of raging conspiracy kooks, the majority of which won't believe what you put out to disprove them anyways.
 
megrimlock said:
You're missing the point of my argument, You condemn Obama on the basis of having no executive experience when the same can be true of plenty of politicians.
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I'd need to dig up my old post to be sure...but I believe in the past 50 years at least and it may've been the past 100, only 2 presidents didn't either have:

1. Experience as part of an Executive Branch of government

or

2. Experience as a Commander of a branch of the military

The two directly correlating jobs to the Presidents two primary responsabilities as Cheif Executive of the country and Commander-In-Chief of the armed forces.
 
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