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Obama to speak on birth certificate

Your rhetoric is pathetic, honestly.

Obama was born in the US, the birth Certificate he released 2 years ago put that to rest, the BC he released a week ag did the same thing.

If you believe otherwise, seek mental help, immediately.

I've never believed 0bama wasn't a natural born citizen.

Which part of this sentence did you miss Jet?
 
A different type of controvesy. No one is challenging his birth certificate. This was a legal debate. And not one McCain has had to endure for years as people said his birth certificant wasn't real. Differences matter.

Well, true enough I guess, but McCain wasn't elected either. There is no 'natural born' hurdle to serve in the Senate. But there is one as President. Now seeing as historically more than just Obama have been said to have tested this, Romney Sr, as well as Barry Goldwater to mention two, I would think that continued challenges to this at this time should be put to rest. Although I poke fun with the Ukulele references, that some obviously don't know what to make of it because they are so busy using any Allensky tactic they can to dismiss, mock, and ridicule anyone who brings this up, and when their arguments for Obama fail, the race card is immediate and forthcoming all too quickly. Libs need to stop being so defensive, and let it go.

On last, I would just say for the record, that Joe you have amused me by actually thinking that I am any kind of birther....I would have thought that the many years we have known each others style of posting you'd be the last one confused....Ah well, I guess it just goes to show that when your goal posts are constantly moving, and you rely on one sided biased information about the type of people that you are opposing, you are willing to post anything and believe it....That saddens me old friend.

Maybe you can adjust. I hope so....

j-mac
 
If you defend birthers, often going down biurther lane, it raises the question. Perhaps you're just having fun, but I ahve noted where you went down birther lane and asked you to expalin. I don't think you ever ahve.

As for other challenges, nonoe of those challenged had to ever provide more than oabam did, and there was no birther nutters running around trying to call everything into question.

And j, you really do overuse the goal post tactic. no one has moved any goal posts. It seems some get stuck on a tactic and rarely actually try to understand what is being said. I wish you would do more trying to understand old friend. ;shrug:
 
I've never believed 0bama wasn't a natural born citizen.

He released a COLB to a left wing forum site instead of his original BC he admits he had a copy of for a reason.

0bama spent millions of dollars to fight court cases to keep the silliness going as well.

The right isn't ignoring anything. The left didn't care about 0bama's past and still doesn't.

Um... Obama spent millions keeping the silliness going?

Really? No backup, nothing, just an unsupported and unsupportable statement?

You know, if the nutters hadn't had the birther idea to make themselves look foolish, they would simply have found another way. Nutters have no trouble making themselves look foolish. Spending millions of dollars giving them rope to hang themselves with makes no sense at all.
 
Of course they knew the difference.

It's the reason they kept asking for his original BC.

0bama said himself he had a copy of it and yet refused to release it to keep the silliness going.

So Obama lied and said he had to specially order it from Hawaii, just because he wanted to keep this going? :lamo

Why would he want to keep this going?
 
No I'm not. Never have been.

I do know that 0bama is playing silly political games with this isssue.

All the while 0bama is lecturing Americans about not playing silly political games.

He could have released his original BC anytime he wanted.

You must be a birther. If you're going to tote that BS about how he could have released any time he wanted, then you must be a birther. Because Obama DID release his birth certificate. If that wasn't enough for you, then that makes you a birther, by definition. If you think that Hawaii generally issues long forms, then that makes you a birther, by definition.
 
Obama presented a Birth Certificate to the world after spending about $2 million to avoid the question in court. I want to know if when he came up with this paper was the ink dry on it and has it tested, because it's funny there is suddenly proof after the fight over it.

Something is not right here'

I am not a Birher but I do wonder what is up with the sudden change in attitude. Obama never personally addressed the issue and now is all over it in public.

I see nothing wrong with asking questions.

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He released a COLB to a left wing forum site

Actually, he released it on his own site. After that, factcheck looked into it on their own.

instead of his original BC

He still hasn't released his "original." He's released a certified copy, just like before.

he admits he had a copy of for a reason.

Evidence, now. Otherwise, shut it.

0bama spent millions of dollars to fight court cases to keep the silliness going as well.

Only birthers spread that lie.

The right isn't ignoring anything.

Just the facts....

The left didn't care about 0bama's past and still doesn't.

Only birthers care about Obama's past.
 
Why would he want to keep this going?

Politics, of course. Obama figured he scored bigger political points by having the public question his citizenship, instead of the public focusing on things, like how he killed bin Laden.
 
Politics, of course. Obama figured he scored bigger political points by having the public question his citizenship, instead of the public focusing on things, like how he killed bin Laden.

It's funny because I thought of it the opposite way. I assumed he got the birth certificate thing over with before the bin laden mission so that the focus WOULD be on the bin laden mission.
 
It's funny because I thought of it the opposite way. I assumed he got the birth certificate thing over with before the bin laden mission so that the focus WOULD be on the bin laden mission.

-_-

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So Obama lied and said he had to specially order it from Hawaii, just because he wanted to keep this going? :lamo

Why would he want to keep this going?

He didn't lie and I never said he did.

He never released what he stated he had in his possession and asked HI to send a COLB which he then released to DailyKos and fightthesmears.com.

He wants to keep this going so that anyone looking into his past and asking legitimate questions not related to this issue can be painted as a birther.

Judging from the responses in here its working.
 
You must be a birther. If you're going to tote that BS about how he could have released any time he wanted, then you must be a birther. Because Obama DID release his birth certificate. If that wasn't enough for you, then that makes you a birther, by definition. If you think that Hawaii generally issues long forms, then that makes you a birther, by definition.

I firmly believe 0bama is a natural born citizen so stuff your "definition" BS.

0bama says he has a copy of his original BC in his book Dreams of my Father.

If that's true there would be no need to ask HI to send a COLB is there.

So there must be another reason.
 
Actually, he released it on his own site. After that, factcheck looked into it on their own.

Wrong. DailyKos released it at the same time.

He still hasn't released his "original." He's released a certified copy, just like before.

Wrong again. He just released his original BC and he could have done that at anytime. He didn't.

Evidence, now. Otherwise, shut it.

It's in his book. So STFU yourself.

Only birthers spread that lie.

Yet another lefty who doesn't know.

Only birthers care about Obama's past.

Thus proving my point. Thank you.
 
I firmly believe 0bama is a natural born citizen so stuff your "definition" BS.

Then justify your claims that he has been withholding his birth certificate.

0bama says he has a copy of his original BC in his book Dreams of my Father.

Like I said, evidence now, or shut it!

If that's true there would be no need to ask HI to send a COLB is there.

Even if it were true that Obama at one point had a copy of his long form that we was able to publish in his book, that does not mean he continued to have it. Things get lost some times, ya know. Claiming that Obama has had a copy of his long form all along, in light of the fact that the one he released was only issued a couple weeks ago, is an extraordinary claim. And extraordinary claims require extraordinary explanations and evidence.
 
Dude, it's not true. Evidence now, otherwise shut it!

And when I do prove it we both know it will make no difference to you.

Still want me to post it?

Do you really not know that 0bama fought a court case all the way to the SCOTUS?

I believe the guys name was Berg.
 
Then justify your claims that he has been withholding his birth certificate.

On Page 26 of “Dreams of My Father”, Obama writes:

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school,”

From “Dreams of My Father” « Just Americans Making Ethical Statements Weblog

STFU yourself.

Even if it were true that Obama at one point had a copy of his long form that we was able to publish in his book, that does not mean he continued to have it. Things get lost some times, ya know. Claiming that Obama has had a copy of his long form all along, in light of the fact that the one he released was only issued a couple weeks ago, is an extraordinary claim. And extraordinary claims require extraordinary explanations and evidence.

Since he said he had it, and I can't find where 0bama says he looked and can't find it, that kind of narrows it down now doesn't it.
 
Wrong. DailyKos released it at the same time.

So what if they released it at the same time? That doesn't make me wrong in the slightest.

Wrong again. He just released his original BC and he could have done that at anytime. He didn't.

No, the original is in Hawaii's Department of Health's vital records. What he released was a certified copy, as evidenced by the issuance date on the document, and the certification by the state registrar that it is a true and accurate COPY of the state's records.

It's in his book. So STFU yourself.

You still aren't providing any evidence.

Yet another lefty who doesn't know.

Dude, it's not true. Evidence, or shut it.

Thus proving my point. Thank you.

Your point now is to concede that you are a birther? If you already believe that he is a natural born citizen, why do you care to continue digging into his past? If you believe his is a natural born citizen, you should already have everything you need. But alas, you are indeed a birther, still hoping to find some excuse to cast doubt on his citizenship.

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You're a crackpot. Plain and simple.

I'm not a birther and never have been.

This is straight out of rules for radicals. Ever heard of it?
 
So what if they released it at the same time? That doesn't make me wrong in the slightest.

Of course it does and I knew you wouldn't admit that. You're a lefty crackpot.

No, the original is in Hawaii's Department of Health's vital records. What he released was a certified copy, as evidenced by the issuance date on the document, and the certification by the state registrar that it is a true and accurate COPY of the state's records.

So 0bama was lying in his book?. I have my original BC.
 
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