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Obama to speak on birth certificate

just to clarify, you are saying that a vast majority of those dont believe it because he is considered "black"..?
you better get to know the enemy a little better.

No, that is not what I said. There are two reasons one can be a birther, racism or stupidity. I believe some are racists and some are just stupid.
 
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I really don't think he'd be a good president... he has a bad temper. He'd piss our enemies off, everybody would press the red button, and chaos would ensue

He's more qualified than Palin... which isn't saying much.

Yeah, if the Donald ever got elected, I'd find nice home in Canada or Ireland and hunker down until the country comes back to its senses.

Trump is so curious about how Obama got into Harvard.... How did he come up with capital for his first real estate deals.... Oh, yeah, Daddy gave it to him. Not the self-made man that Obama is.
 
Obama served Trump a nice cup of shut the **** up...

:applaud
 
Obama served Trump a nice cup of shut the **** up...

:applaud

He let out just enough rope and....


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Trump hung himself and the GOP.
 
Boo,

You really need to calm down. I am not defending birthers. I've called them foolsnon more than one occassion. The fact you are too afraid to say what your position is and simply infer its racism is weak.

They like the morons and fools who think folks who question obama must be racist are morons to be mocked and treated like the shi t they are.

I am non partisan about this. I've been telling you this for pages now. If you want to call that "defense" of the birfer movement. I can't help you. Your selective feigned outrage is a pretty plumage for all to see.

I have clearly stated my position. because it doesn't fit what you want to pretend it is doesn't mean it hasbn't been clearly stated. And no, you fool yourself if you really believe you're non-partisan. You're anything but.

And yes, you are defenidng birthers. You state they asked legitmate question when clearly they don't. It was never legitmate. and got even less so as time went on.
 
Since when is Hilary a birther?

Times Flubs Timeline of 'Birther' Myth: First Spread by Hillary Clinton Supporters in 2008

SPRING 2008: The "birther" movement is born.


Rumors about Obama's birth certificate start circulating towards the end of the 2008 Democratic primaries, helped along by PUMA, a small but vocal group of Hillary supporters who refuse to accept Obama's primary victory. Among the rumors: Obama was born in Kenya and his middle name is really Muhammad.


Read more: A Short History Of The "Birther" Movement -- Americans Who Think Obama Was Born In Kenya
 
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So why hide the records?

Because it drives some on the right crazy. Enough of them that politicians have to avoid the issue in order to not offend voters they're gonna need.

And if someone tried to get you fired based on something you knew you could prove wasn't true, wouldn't you let them run with it 'til they were foaming at the mouth THEN pull the rug out from under them?

That is a particularly poetic way to punish for them for pulling this stunt in the first place AND score some political points in the first place.:2wave:
 
Because it drives some on the right crazy. Enough of them that politicians have to avoid the issue in order to not offend voters they're gonna need.

And if someone tried to get you fired based on something you knew you could prove wasn't true, wouldn't you let them run with it 'til they were foaming at the mouth THEN pull the rug out from under them?

That is a particularly poetic way to punish for them for pulling this stunt in the first place AND score some political points in the first place.:2wave:

Nice post, but you wasted your time writing it to Ptif... :lol:
 
Then stop saying he was smarter than Bush or how smart he is.

He is hiding something and when he claims to be tranparent yet hides all his records that shows all he is is a liar.

Do you want to see him naked?::mrgreen:

Seriously, would you fall for what those behind the birther nonsense are trying to pull?

Demand that the President produce "x", the more ridiculous the better.

If he refuses, he's hiding something.

If he complies, he's a punk, and he's probably lying about "y".

Demand that the president produce "y".

Repeat until "They wouldn't be so suspicious if he wasn't guilty" kicks in.

Collect payment for your PR contract from Republican Party.:2wave:
 
Wow this thread is moving fast..

Amazing what happens when the lib's finally have something tangible to grasp on to.. :)

Or when the PR hacks distribute new talking points and the lefties find themselves charging a fortress of nonsense that moved, overnight.

I predict a variety of new bones for the birthers will be flung about, all of which will organically appear on every blog and message board, Fox News, talk radio, you name it.

Virtually word for word identical.

On the same day.

And until they get the polling feedback, we'll probably see only rote repetition without elaboration from the memeherders.

Followed by smooth BS supporting the vein that got the best traction.

This added to the recent Ryan lead balloon has got to be giving the PR boys FITS.

Right now the Republican messaging machinery is in more disarray than I have ever seen. This provides an excellent opportunity to observe the phenomenon of "memeherding".

I have lots of popcorn!:2wave:

And wooden shoes!:mrgreen:
 
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You mean like Bush Lied, People Died?

Obama's origin of birth is a fair question, and one that wasn't answered, and should have been answered years ago. We The People have to produce more evidence of our origin to get a passport than he had to to run for POTUS.

If he wanted to stick it to his detractors, he would have waited for a more opportune time. This will get blown through the news cycle like another Obama Teleprompteur speech to grade schoolers.

Cost Trump integrity? Asking questions the press should have asked years ago? ROTFLOL... only in the minds of Libs do you lose integrity asking pertinent questions.

I think it was timed by Obama and Axelrod to try and take some air out of Jerome Corsi's book. My bet is Obama wanted to release this much, much later, but between Trump and Corsi they had to shoot their wad now.

BTW, how does a poor student get into Harvard?

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Uhhh.....Stapled to a chicken who has a SCHOLARSHIP?:mrgreen:
 
I'll go you a couple better.

Obama was born august of 1961, his parents were married feb of 1961. He was conceived a bastard (assuming he was not 2 months premature).

subtract 9 months from his date of birth and you will see that his mother was, most likely, only 17 years old (legally a minor) when his 24 year old father (who had deserted a pregnant wife and infant son in Africa) impregnated her.

I'm pretty sure being a bastard actually makes one MORE eligible for a job in politics.:mrgreen:
 
Re: White House releases Obama birth certificate

Well, I guess this lays that little problem to rest. It's a sad day for birthers and states with birth rite legislation in process.

What's so amusing about that, is that (the fact that those bills are probably unconstitutional in the first place) Obama now has this rare thing called a "long form" birth certificate in his possession. Before, Obama did not have it in his hands, but the birthers wanted to force the issue. Meanwhile, there's a good chance that whomever ends up being the GOP candidate will NOT possess a long form. Thus, will have to be excluded from the ballot while Obama gets on!! :lamo
 
Re: White House releases Obama birth certificate

What's so amusing about that, is that (the fact that those bills are probably unconstitutional in the first place) Obama now has this rare thing called a "long form" birth certificate in his possession. Before, Obama did not have it in his hands, but the birthers wanted to force the issue. Meanwhile, there's a good chance that whomever ends up being the GOP candidate will NOT possess a long form. Thus, will have to be excluded from the ballot while Obama gets on!! :lamo

Sucks to be the author of this book
Matt Drudge hypes Jerome Corsi's new birther book - War Room - Salon.com
 
OK. That's the new birthers. People who believe Obama should be charged with a crime. What are you going to call us? And don't forget we are racists.

The "Where-dats"?

Where dat BC?

Where dat transcript?

Where dat _______?
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He could've played it better, but he didn't play it poorly.

Trump, being the name he is, managed to get this going at a national level of awareness due to his notoriety (but with still a national roll of the eyes). However, the fact he was being aggressive and the fact he's a name that people recognize managed to get some polls going up in his favor.

Obama would've been better off politically letting this snow ball even farther, letting more republicans show how dumb they were by jumping on this, and then releasing it shortly before the first few debates. But doing it now still pretty much obliterates Trumps little attempt, makes him look foolish to have made such a big deal out of something that was obvious from the start, and ends the whole crap. By letting it go on for the past few weeks however he managed to let it dillude much of the talk that would've instead been about the Budget that would've likely been far worse for him.

He didn't do as well as he could, he surely didn't do poorly though....not from a political stand point.

One thing to remember: in persuasion, repetition is as good as truth much of the time.

Maximum simultaneous dispersion would be my approach to this reveal.

This forces "crisis responses", and not the trigger-ready type prepared in advance of a potential crisis and saved for a rainy day. The slapped together in the midst of an already unstable situation type.:mrgreen:

So the timing is possibly nothing more than a judgement call based on peak favorable propaganda value.
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Liberals as individuals may not all be stupid, but as a group, they do not always make the best arguements to support their beliefs. Conservitives are much more effective in presenting their views, even if they are wrong, and repeat bullcrap arguments over and over again.

The conservatives have MUCH higher quality propaganda. Their think tanks have rewritten the books written in Europe in the last century on how to dupe an entire populous into going along with things they never would have if they had simply understood.

Its not your great-grandpa's propaganda.:2wave:
 
birthers, i have a new project for you.

how about the Obama administration start explaining more important issues, specifically Obama's role in the "Whoomp, There It Is" music video.




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There are only 2 issues right now for Obama.

Campaigning for the upcoming election and fund raising for his campaign.
 
There are only 2 issues right now for Obama.

Campaigning for the upcoming election and fund raising for his campaign.


Ptif ~ adviser to the presidents! :eek:
 
On the "where dat transcript front", I'm rather enjoying this blog post - especially the response in the #1 slot.
 
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