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Obama to speak on birth certificate

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There are crazies on all sides. This is the issue of the day. In a year we'll be onto the next silly controversy. The birther thing is no less ridiculous or distracting than those who would suggest that the govt designed and implemented all of the events of 9/11 (and at least the birth argument isn't emotionally damaging to the families left behind by those that died).

P.S. What's the record on # of banned posters in one thread?
 
This issue is anything but settled!!!

Can anyone tell me why he wasn't born BHO, but that's what his so called long form BC says? Why are his names different on his short form and long form BC? This is obviously a forgery. Something is really amiss here and why nobody is questioning it is beyond me.

His name was Barry Sortero at birth.

What in the world are you talking about? Both documents list his name exactly the same way.

Certification of Live Birth (Short-form*): Barack Hussein Obama II

Certificate of Live Birth (Long-form): Barack Hussein Obama, II

*Note: You might have to increase the magnification on the short-form to read it properly, but the spelling of his name is exactly the same on both documents.
 
What in the world are you talking about? Both documents list his name exactly the same way.

Certification of Live Birth (Short-form*): Barack Hussein Obama II

Certificate of Live Birth (Long-form): Barack Hussein Obama, II

*Note: You might have to increase the magnification on the short-form to read it properly, but the spelling of his name is exactly the same on both documents.

Sortero was the man Obama's mother married/lived with AFTER Obama's father. Sortero was the father of Obama's sister. Sortero would NOT have been his original last name, as Sortero didn't exist in Ann's life at the time.
 
Sortero was the man Obama's mother married/lived with AFTER Obama's father. Sortero was the father of Obama's sister. Sortero would NOT have been his original last name, as Sortero didn't exist in Ann's life at the time.

Soetero was his stepdad. Still don't understand why people bother to use that name when they talk about Barack.
 

I guess I understand why the president released the long form. The thought being that the birth certificate issue had again dominated the news cycle and they had to do something to get it back to the budget. But I would have preferred that they had kept the long form certificate hidden for as long as possible for two reasons: it brought the crazies out in droves and may have pushed alot of the independents towards the left. Plus, by not releasing it, Obama could drive those same crazy people even crazier as time went on.

But it seems my fears about this being an issue that will now go away were unfounded. Queen Crazy, Orly Taits, just said she feels the certificate is forged because for race of Obama's father the document says African, not negro. It just goes to show that crazy people will not see the light, no matter how glaring. So the birther issue will remain with us, if not at a diminished level, pushing ever more reasonable independents to the liberal fold.
 
Soetero was his stepdad. Still don't understand why people bother to use that name when they talk about Barack.

I don't understand why people think this important to know... I could really care less. I don't even know what his mom's name was... :shrug:
 
I guess I understand why the president released the long form. The thought being that the birth certificate issue had again dominated the news cycle and they had to do something to get it back to the budget. But I would have preferred that they had kept the long form certificate hidden for as long as possible for two reasons: it brought the crazies out in droves and may have pushed alot of the independents towards the left. Plus, by not releasing it, Obama could drive those same crazy people even crazier as time went on.

But it seems my fears about this being an issue that will now go away were unfounded. Queen Crazy, Orly Taits, just said she feels the certificate is forged because for race of Obama's father the document says African, not negro. It just goes to show that crazy people will not see the light, no matter how glaring. So the birther issue will remain with us, if not at a diminished level, pushing ever more reasonable independents to the liberal fold.

You sure have a lot of nerve for somebody totally bitch slapped by Donald Trump. Stop pretending you know anything about what happened today cause you don't!
 
On the contrary, Obama just punctured the credibility of a potential presidential rival.

He should have let Trump continue on and get more and more popular. With any luck he could have been nominated by the GOP. Only then should he have released his Long Form Certificate, deflating the ego balloon at its apex.
 
You sure have a lot of nerve for somebody totally bitch slapped by Donald Trump. Stop pretending you know anything about what happened today cause you don't!

Do tell, what happened today? :coffeepap
 
Not one "we were wrong" on this tedious thread. Just proves, with the right, it's never about facts just brick throwing.
 
Not one "we were wrong" on this tedious thread. Just proves, with the right, it's never about facts just brick throwing.

I wouldn't equate the "right," whoever they are, with birthers. It's true you can't reason with birthers, but they do not represent all on the right. There are nutters everywhere.

Just saying. :coffeepap
 
You sure have a lot of nerve for somebody totally bitch slapped by Donald Trump. Stop pretending you know anything about what happened today cause you don't!

You mean how today we saw that Donald Trump was bitching and spending money on investigators all to prove.......that Obama was telling the truth all this time, that the previous document that was legally acceptable to prove his eligability was correct, and that all the birther's efforts to prove Obama wasn't a citizen were as worth while as we all thought them to be?

You mean how THAT happened today?
 
Not one "we were wrong" on this tedious thread. Just proves, with the right, it's never about facts just brick throwing.

You realize that the "right" does not equal "the birthers" any more than "the left" equaled "The truthers". There's numerous people on "the right" in this thread saying it was stupid and having been against the birther movement from the beginning. Also, the largest birther on the site and the one still going on about how "heroic" trump is is someone I'd hardly be able to say you can clearly define as "the right" or "the left". So...just no.
 
You sure have a lot of nerve for somebody totally bitch slapped by Donald Trump. Stop pretending you know anything about what happened today cause you don't!

Here, to wipe off the egg.

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Obama created the waste of time by not releasing it 2 years ago. Now lets see him release the rest of hios records. He said he would be transparent so lets see it

Why is Obama obligated to release his BC in the first place? Did you demand the same thing from Bush/Clinton/etc etc.

This might be a shock for you but the POTUS doesn't have to cater to a fringe minority's every demand.
 
Re: Birthers are pretty much done.

You might want to check out the 68 plus page thread on this already.
 
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