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Obama to speak on birth certificate

liblady said:
honestly, i just want to hear the more prominent birfers stumble all over themselves trying to discredit this. after all, all we've heard is "why won't he release his real birth certificate?"

well, he did.
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I'd like to see if any of them act surprised...

Why hassle this president about his birth certificate, but no other president... :shrug:
 
Zyphlin said:
I agree, but that goes back to me saying it was politically intelligent to do it, not a "flinch". People will at times midnlessly go along or buy something they hear a bunch, and since Trump is a big name and gets attention then the topic gets talked about more. Its the same as people thinking Bush said Iraq was involved in 9/11...Bush never said it, but people heard it repeated so much that they started to buy in. Same thing here. So because a big name grabbed it and was causing it to be talked about more, more people start wondering based on mob mentality of stupidity, and thus it was politically advantageous of him to put a stop to it.
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yeah, I'm modifying my position, see my last post. I essentially agree with you, however, the fact remains, Trump forced him into this position.
 
liblady said:
perhaps you should stop assuming libs are stupid.
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Liberals as individuals may not all be stupid, but as a group, they do not always make the best arguements to support their beliefs. Conservitives are much more effective in presenting their views, even if they are wrong, and repeat bullcrap arguments over and over again.
 
OscarB63 said:
Obama was born august of 1961, his parents were married feb of 1961. He was conceived a bastard (assuming he was not 2 months premature).

subtract 9 months from his date of birth and you will see that his mother was, most likely, only 17 years old (legally a minor) when his 24 year old father (who had deserted a pregnant wife and infant son in Africa) impregnated her.
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Your ODS is duly noted.
 
imagep said:
What did he lie about? He said that he was investigating the situation, I have no reason to believe he wasn't. Trumps never made any claim other than the fact that there was some contention as to Obamas place of birth and that the issue should be resolved. We may never know what his investigators found, maybe nothing, but regardless, Trump forced Obama into resolving the issue, or at least attempting to.
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He lied about investigating the situatiom for starters.
 
SheWolf said:
Yeah, I would agree with this, but it probably wouldn't have happened anyway. He probably has analysts looking at the numbers, and they decided now was a good time.. :shrug:
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He is in a massive hole and needed a break from the ass kicking he is getting for mishandling just about everything he touches. But this will pass swiftly and be a mere footnote about a President who was not forthcoming about his origin of birth.

When this moment passes, Obama's severe political hemorrhaging will continue, until he's finally removed from office in 2012.

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hazlnut said:
First, Trump says now we can get on talking about more important issues and gives a grocery list of things HE thinks are important...

NOW, he's talking about Obama's academic records and all the RUMORS that he was a bad student...

Asshole.

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Why does it look like he only dyes the top of his hair... Why not just dye all of it?
 
Zyphlin said:
I agree, but that goes back to me saying it was politically intelligent to do it, not a "flinch". People will at times midnlessly go along or buy something they hear a bunch, and since Trump is a big name and gets attention then the topic gets talked about more. Its the same as people thinking Bush said Iraq was involved in 9/11...Bush never said it, but people heard it repeated so much that they started to buy in. Same thing here. So because a big name grabbed it and was causing it to be talked about more, more people start wondering based on mob mentality of stupidity, and thus it was politically advantageous of him to put a stop to it.

If the poll numbers didn't go up, THEN Obama would've been "Flinching" because Trump would've had no effect and he would be reacting out of fear that Trump WOULD have an affect.

However that's not the case. This is more a case, taking the punching analogy, of Trump actually hitting Obama in the arm a few times and Obama finally getting annoyed with the slow escalation of how sore his arm is getting and so reaches over and gives a punch right back finally.
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a knockout punch, in fact.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
yeah, I'm modifying my position, see my last post. I essentially agree with you, however, the fact remains, Trump forced him into this position.
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Just saw that. Yep. Its not a flinch so much as a return punch from someone who finally got annoyed by the gnat flicking at his arm. Trump forced him into the position...which isn't any great accomplishment or heroic thing. It just shows that Politics is as suspectable to the "celebrity" affect as anything else in this country, and that if you're famous enough to get attention you can repeat crap enough to make people think there may be merit to it. Big name person says something, news covers it because its a big name person, people hear big name person saying something on news and assume it must be something somewhat legitimate because its on the news and someone they know of is saying it.

Trump is to politics what Kim Kardashian is to hollywood. An entity that is relevant and well known for no other reason then their celebrity, who can get people thinking and acting a certain way not because of anything legitimate but simply because they're big names.
 
zimmer said:
He is in a massive hole and needed a break from the ass kicking he is getting for mishandling just about everything he touches. But this will pass swiftly and be a mere footnote about a President who was not forthcoming about his origin of birth.
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Yes, the legal birth certificate that's been on the internet for 2+ years was not forthcoming enough for far-righties and bigots looking for any way to discredit the president.

When this moment passes, Obama's severe political hemorrhaging will continue, until he's finally removed from office in 2012.

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Thanks to Trump the independents and right of centers who may have been persuaded by birfer rumors will now get to vote for the best candidate.

Well done, Trump. You just undercut the GOP's xenophobia and bigotry talking points.
 
OscarB63 said:
I'll go you a couple better.

Obama was born august of 1961, his parents were married feb of 1961. He was conceived a bastard (assuming he was not 2 months premature).

subtract 9 months from his date of birth and you will see that his mother was, most likely, only 17 years old (legally a minor) when his 24 year old father (who had deserted a pregnant wife and infant son in Africa) impregnated her.
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i'd rather be conceived a bastard than be perceived a bastard.
 
hazlnut said:
Yes, the legal birth certificate that's been on the internet for 2+ years was not forthcoming enough for far-righties and bigots looking for any way to discredit the president.
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How does someone questioning his birth make them a bigot. Can you explain your thought process here?
 
ptif219 said:
You do not know what Obama did he is hiding everything about his past
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All I've heard from the right is that Obama's hiding his records because they prove he wasn't born in Hawaii. He's hiding his birth certificate because it shows he's a Moslem. He's hiding his school records because they prove he was granted funds as a foreigner. He's hiding his records because he got bad grades, etc., etc., etc.

Releasing the long form puts that to rest.

It's done. Get over it. He was born in Hawaii and he's not hiding anything. He played the birfers for the fools they are, kudos to him.
 
ptif219 said:
No Obama has looked like the fool for 2 years for making the issue and now he looks like Trumps fool
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No i just think all you birthers made yourself look like freaking fools flipping a shiznit over this whole issue...
 
Can we move on to what is REALLY important now?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
How does someone questioning his birth make them a bigot. Can you explain your thought process here?
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If you only question a person of color, no one else ever, it does raise the question. There was never any reason to question him, and to old to this nonsense despite overwhelming evidence, . . . well . . . it more than begs the question as to why?
 
ptif219 said:
The birther part is. Now lets see his school records and Thesis
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Why the **** does this matter now?
Do you want to count his toes? Find out how many fillings in his teeth he has had? How about how many times he has had sex? How many cigarettes he smoked in his life? What parties he went to during college? What else you wanna know? What was his first car as a child? What was his allowence in elementary school?
 
Hicup said:
Gawd I hate doing this, but you have to admit. If you were Obama and you KNEW you were eligible all along, sticking it to your detractors would provide some level of arrogance, and one-up-manship, no?


be honesr.. :)


Tim-
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That's true. So why did Obama not stick to it? Trump made him his bitch. I wouldn't want to vote for a bitch.
 
Trump most certainly is a national hero. Of coarse there are those with serious jealousy issues. We should pray for them.

Trump deserves a hero's welcome and a Mardi Gras parade. He will be Rex, King of Mardi Gras.

When has anybody done something so daring? When?
 
zimmer said:
Asking questions, doing the job the press should have done years ago costs one their credibility? ROTFLOL... not.
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He wasn't just, "asking questions," he was making accusations. False ones at that. Like claiming Obama's grandmother said he was born in Kenya when she never said that. Trump shoved his foot into his own mouth. Obama just poured dirt all over his foot to make it taste that much worse.
 
Boo Radley said:
If you only question a person of color, no one else ever, it does raise the question. There was never any reason to question him, and to old to this nonsense despite overwhelming evidence, . . . well . . . it more than begs the question as to why?
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Folks like you cheapen the real issue of race relations in this country looking for racism where none exists.

the question arose from his parents life and travels and citizenry, his color was not of concern for all except the bigots on the left. Kudos for that. :roll:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
How does someone questioning his birth make them a bigot. Can you explain your thought process here?
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anyone who doesn't suck Obama's arse on a daily basis is a bigot. get with the program dude
 
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