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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by megrimlock View Post
    You claimed he was "the most secretive president in history" That's not a negative, nor did you ever provide proof on what makes him so clandestine and sinister, other than the fact that he won't obey the every whims of a bunch of angry crazies.
    Can you name another president that has sealed all records and his state government records are missing?

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You prove it it is a positve not a negative. I have not said he was not born here i just want to know why he has sealed his whole life's history.
    He released his birth certificate before and Birthers didn't think that was sufficient. Now, he's released his long form birth certificate and SURPRISE, many don't find that sufficient either.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    What is your definition of transparent... he is the only president to be asked and challenged to release his birth certificate.
    He has sealed all education records and his illinois senate records are missing

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Can you name another president that has sealed all records and his state government records are missing?
    Can you name another president who has been under this much scrutiny to prove that he is an American citizen?

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Can you name another president that has sealed all records and his state government records are missing?
    Nothing you say is true, according to the facts.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    It's a fake. It has his father's race as African. Race wasn't depicted as African back in 1961. In 1961, his father's race would have been written as negro or black. Let's see if the ink is dry yet.
    I was about to like this because I thought it was a joke. Then I realized it was serious.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    He has sealed all education records and his illinois senate records are missing
    And that is his perogative. Again, I think we are dealing with far more important issues in this country than what our president's education records are or seeing his long form birth certificate to prove that he's an American citizen. Conspiracy theorists scramble for justifications of their loony theories and this issue is no different.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    He has sealed all education records and his illinois senate records are missing
    Those statements are both false.

    Nothing is sealed.

    No records are missing...

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    How can he claim to be transparent in government when he hides all his records. This tells me he will run the government the same way and he has.

    Do you know his first act as president was to seal his presidential records?

    Obama’s FIRST Act as President was to SEAL his records H4CBlog
    Again, he is the most transparent president in history based on this definition

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    It's a fake. It has his father's race as African. Race wasn't depicted as African back in 1961. In 1961, his father's race would have been written as negro or black. Let's see if the ink is dry yet.
    Ok, so this is the birther defense now?

    I guess that's good to know

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