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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No Obama did by letting this go on for 2 years.
    Yeah, it's not the idiots who believed this nonsense fault
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    I just had a thought. Maybe Obama offered Trump a bailout and his attacks are actually part of the re-election strategy.
    It is a re-election thing. His political team probably decided that Trump was a threat, so they torpedoed his candidacy.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do tell, what happened today?
    That's an easy one. It was proof that Obama's birth cerificate is not the only thing that is "certifiable".
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No Obama did by letting this go on for 2 years.
    Why is Obama the only president who has to show his Birth Certificate, for that matter why wasn't a certificate of live birth or a birth announcement in the newspaper enough evidence? Why does Obama have to go out of his way to prove to a small bunch of people what he's already proven to the Supreme Court, the (Republican) Governor of Hawaii, all the channels necessary to obtain a passport etc etc.
    You can't reason somebody out of something they were never reasoned into in the first place.

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    Re: Birthers are pretty much done.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The other three were a little unclear. What happened now?
    Obama gave birthers exactly what they were asking for. Birthers continue to complain, point fingers and shift goalposts.
    You can't reason somebody out of something they were never reasoned into in the first place.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by megrimlock View Post
    Why is Obama obligated to release his BC in the first place? Did you demand the same thing from Bush/Clinton/etc etc.

    This might be a shock for you but the POTUS doesn't have to cater to a fringe minority's every demand.
    Did Bush claim to be a transparent President.

    Obama is showing he lies and that when he says transparent he really means secretive I will seal everything

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Did Bush claim to be a transparent President.

    Obama is showing he lies and that when he says transparent he really means secretive I will seal everything
    That doesn't excuse it. Seriously, it begs the question why do birthers ask more of Obama than others? If you can't answer it, others are left to answer for you.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Did Bush claim to be a transparent President.

    Obama is showing he lies and that when he says transparent he really means secretive I will seal everything
    Why do you care? It's pretty clear that your opinion of Obama likely won't be swayed by him releasing any of his records.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Did Bush claim to be a transparent President.

    Obama is showing he lies and that when he says transparent he really means secretive I will seal everything
    God knows you can complain about Obama being non-transparent as a President in some forms. However, PERSONAL RECORDS has nothing to do with being a transparent president. Jesus Christ, if you demanded he let you put on a rubber glove and finger his asshole to check his prostate and he declined I halfway think you'd go "SEE! SEE! He's being SECRETIVE! He promised to be transparent yet he seals everything! EVEN HIS ASS!"

    There's ways to argue that Obama's failed in being transparent as a President. Not releasing PERSONAL records that are irrelevant to his duties as a President isn't one of those.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    God knows you can complain about Obama being non-transparent as a President in some forms. However, PERSONAL RECORDS has nothing to do with being a transparent president. Jesus Christ, if you demanded he let you put on a rubber glove and finger his asshole to check his prostate and he declined I halfway think you'd go "SEE! SEE! He's being SECRETIVE! He promised to be transparent yet he seals everything! EVEN HIS ASS!"

    There's ways to argue that Obama's failed in being transparent as a President. Not releasing PERSONAL records that are irrelevant to his duties as a President isn't one of those.


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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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