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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

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    I'm looking forward to the birthers still complaining, and coming up with more crazy stuff!
    The wait's already over. Just search sazerac.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    There are crazies on all sides. This is the issue of the day. In a year we'll be onto the next silly controversy. The birther thing is no less ridiculous or distracting than those who would suggest that the govt designed and implemented all of the events of 9/11 (and at least the birth argument isn't emotionally damaging to the families left behind by those that died).

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
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    I was wondering the same thing.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    This issue is anything but settled!!!

    Can anyone tell me why he wasn't born BHO, but that's what his so called long form BC says? Why are his names different on his short form and long form BC? This is obviously a forgery. Something is really amiss here and why nobody is questioning it is beyond me.

    His name was Barry Sortero at birth.
    What in the world are you talking about? Both documents list his name exactly the same way.

    Certification of Live Birth (Short-form*): Barack Hussein Obama II

    Certificate of Live Birth (Long-form): Barack Hussein Obama, II

    *Note: You might have to increase the magnification on the short-form to read it properly, but the spelling of his name is exactly the same on both documents.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    What in the world are you talking about? Both documents list his name exactly the same way.

    Certification of Live Birth (Short-form*): Barack Hussein Obama II

    Certificate of Live Birth (Long-form): Barack Hussein Obama, II

    *Note: You might have to increase the magnification on the short-form to read it properly, but the spelling of his name is exactly the same on both documents.
    Sortero was the man Obama's mother married/lived with AFTER Obama's father. Sortero was the father of Obama's sister. Sortero would NOT have been his original last name, as Sortero didn't exist in Ann's life at the time.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Sortero was the man Obama's mother married/lived with AFTER Obama's father. Sortero was the father of Obama's sister. Sortero would NOT have been his original last name, as Sortero didn't exist in Ann's life at the time.
    Soetero was his stepdad. Still don't understand why people bother to use that name when they talk about Barack.
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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    okay, birfers, here ya go. now shut the **** up.

    Obama to speak on birth certificate - Politics - White House - msnbc.com
    I guess I understand why the president released the long form. The thought being that the birth certificate issue had again dominated the news cycle and they had to do something to get it back to the budget. But I would have preferred that they had kept the long form certificate hidden for as long as possible for two reasons: it brought the crazies out in droves and may have pushed alot of the independents towards the left. Plus, by not releasing it, Obama could drive those same crazy people even crazier as time went on.

    But it seems my fears about this being an issue that will now go away were unfounded. Queen Crazy, Orly Taits, just said she feels the certificate is forged because for race of Obama's father the document says African, not negro. It just goes to show that crazy people will not see the light, no matter how glaring. So the birther issue will remain with us, if not at a diminished level, pushing ever more reasonable independents to the liberal fold.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Soetero was his stepdad. Still don't understand why people bother to use that name when they talk about Barack.
    I don't understand why people think this important to know... I could really care less. I don't even know what his mom's name was...

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Trump made Obama his bitch......
    Reverse that, then you will be correct.
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