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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Reasonable people have long regarded the birthers as political retards. And, that being said, I'm pretty sure there is no cure for retardation so I doubt this will have any effect on their line of thought.

    What I am surprised about is how many retards there actually are. I figured 11-12%. You know, the Becksters, Limbaughnauts, Palinites. I was surprised to learn that there are a lot more stupid walking around out there than we realized.

    USA TODAY/Gallup Poll released Monday showed the issue gaining surprising traction, given that investigations by news outlets and non-partisan organizations consistently concluded there was no question about Obama's place of birth. In the poll, taken last week, only 38% of Americans said they thought the president was "definitely" born in the United States; 18% said he "probably" was.

    Nearly one in four, 24%, said he was probably or definitely born in another country.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Reasonable people have long regarded the birthers as political retards. And, that being said, I'm pretty sure there is no cure for retardation so I doubt this will have any effect on their line of thought.

    What I am surprised about is how many retards there actually are. I figured 11-12%. You know, the Becksters, Limbaughnauts, Palinites. I was surprised to learn that there are a lot more stupid walking around out there than we realized.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    See, that's the thing. YOU say there never was an issue...that there still isn't an issue. Yet the most powerful man in the world knuckled under to what amounts to gossip and released exactly what they were looking for -- the long form. If there wasn't an issue, then ask yourself why the President of the United States is responding to gossip. Will he come out next to assure us he's not racist? (Judging by this thread, that just might be his next move. )

    Trump wasn't playing to birthers. He raised a legitimate question. "Why won't he release his long form birth certificate?" And way too many people were suddenly sayin', "Yeah!! Why not??"
    It's not a legitimate question. It's a dumb question raised by dumb, bored people. I assume the Obama's polling people thought that this was a good time to release the long form - it's too bad it had to become a huge issue.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    I am surprised that Obama didn't wait to show his birth certificate until the last day of his presidency.

    Is ALL Obama's fault for a lot of people being birthers, and I bet that his wife gave him the idea to FINALLYshow his real birth certificate. The man doesn't have the brains to think for himself.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
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    You say that, but there was a study done in the 70s that said people were more likely to vote out an incumbent when their sport team has lost recently.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    I am surprised that Obama didn't wait to show his birth certificate until the last day of his presidency.

    Is ALL Obama's fault for a lot of people being birthers, and I bet that his wife gave him the idea to show FINALLYshow his real birth

    certificate. The man doesn't have the brains to think for himself.
    Crow...never change man, never change
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    People were discussing the "birther" issue before the election. Jerome Corsi's book came out before the election (months before) and discusses the issue of Obama's legitimacy to run. I'm betting that McCain and Clinton's lag in the polls led to their lack of desire to pursue the issue. If they wasted too many resources on it then it would likely deter any gains they were hoping to get through other campaign avenues.
    while there may have been rumblings about his citizenship, the fact that operatives for Clinton and for the Republican party, found nothing worth mentioning, tells me that they knew the 'rumblings' had no legs, that they could find nothing to prove said 'rumblings', and did not wish to appear 'foolish' by bringing the issue to the forefront, and having their asses handed to them when he provided the forms...that this has been made an issue now tells me that those who have been pushing this are playing to the part of the electorate that is , to put it nicely, IGNORANT, those who don't do their due dilligence, and do their own research...they are hoping that the only thing those people remember in 2012 is 'obama not a citizen', and not the fact that this has been disproved.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    I am surprised that Obama didn't wait to show his birth certificate until the last day of his presidency.

    Is ALL Obama's fault for a lot of people being birthers, and I bet that his wife gave him the idea to FINALLYshow his real birth certificate. The man doesn't have the brains to think for himself.
    Seriously? None of this is his fault. He showed what was required of him and people just bitched and moaned. Hell he went a step farther and showed them something else and now they are bitching and moaning about something else. There is just no way to please these people.

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    I know....but what else am I supposed to think...
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    You're kidding right? you can't be serious.

    You losers voted for a man who showed no proof of eligibility.

    You damaged our Constitution.

    You called heroes kooks and racists.

    You all should be disgusted with yourselves!
    How about this.....change your lean to conservative, or very conservative because I haven't seen too many things you've said that are anything but far-right rhetoric. Welcome home!! LOL

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