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    Re: White House releases Obama birth certificate

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    who trump or obama?
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    bump...curious to hear what you folks have to say
    It's always been an issue. It became more of an issue because The Donald brought it up.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: White House releases Obama birth certificate

    I know I know I know - you are going to bring up dontaskdontelll and gaymarriage and druglaws and the other stuff that you like to think proves you are not a rightie. As I told you before, those are fluff issues compared to the fight for the rights of working people and the middle class against the corporatists and those who will do anything to crush them and place them on the roaq to serfdom.
    Hyperbole just killed your argument. This is ridiculous.
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    Re: White House releases Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    who trump or obama?
    The Barackness monster.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    He's on TV talking about his show's finale.

    He's a clown.

    He's incapable of making anyone a bitch.
    well, I would say that he made himself a bitch, but that happened years ago...
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    You don't understand the concept of a 'Trump' card... You play it when you want take someone out at the knees.

    Obama played it brilliantly.

    BTW -- The state of Hawaii could have said no. We won't release the long form publicly. No need to. The short form is a legal birth certificate.

    Will Fox News ask Trump about his crack team of 'investigators' that were turning up all kinds of stuff?
    I thought about this when Anderson Cooper mentioned that all the President had to do was request his long-form BC via FOIA. My first thought was he should do it and let the Hawaii health officials present it to the public. But then I thought, Nah! It would be so much better if he did it. However, I'd have done it differently.

    I'd have called a press conference, called a FoxNews reporter from the press corps, gave him the actually birth certificate and had him read it...ALL OF IT! Then I'd've taken back my birth certificate and closed the press conference; just take walked off stage answering not a single question.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    It's always been an issue. It became more of an issue because The Donald brought it up.
    kinda looking for a response to the questions i asked......

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    bump...curious to hear what you folks have to say
    It didn't "just" become an issue...it's been around forever. What changed was Donald Trump getting hold of it. Suddenly it wasn't just birthers or birfers or any other derogatory name one wants to plant on the people raising questions. Suddenly. It was mainstream. Again I'll say it -- either he should have released it at the very beginning of the Long Form controversy, or he should have never released it.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    kinda looking for a response to the questions i asked......
    oh sorry my bad
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: White House releases Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The Barackness monster.


    maken em Barack and Blue......
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