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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    honestly, i just want to hear the more prominent birfers stumble all over themselves trying to discredit this. after all, all we've heard is "why won't he release his real birth certificate?"

    well, he did.
    I'd like to see if any of them act surprised...

    Why hassle this president about his birth certificate, but no other president...

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I agree, but that goes back to me saying it was politically intelligent to do it, not a "flinch". People will at times midnlessly go along or buy something they hear a bunch, and since Trump is a big name and gets attention then the topic gets talked about more. Its the same as people thinking Bush said Iraq was involved in 9/11...Bush never said it, but people heard it repeated so much that they started to buy in. Same thing here. So because a big name grabbed it and was causing it to be talked about more, more people start wondering based on mob mentality of stupidity, and thus it was politically advantageous of him to put a stop to it.


    yeah, I'm modifying my position, see my last post. I essentially agree with you, however, the fact remains, Trump forced him into this position.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    perhaps you should stop assuming libs are stupid.
    Liberals as individuals may not all be stupid, but as a group, they do not always make the best arguements to support their beliefs. Conservitives are much more effective in presenting their views, even if they are wrong, and repeat bullcrap arguments over and over again.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    Obama was born august of 1961, his parents were married feb of 1961. He was conceived a bastard (assuming he was not 2 months premature).

    subtract 9 months from his date of birth and you will see that his mother was, most likely, only 17 years old (legally a minor) when his 24 year old father (who had deserted a pregnant wife and infant son in Africa) impregnated her.
    Your ODS is duly noted.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    What did he lie about? He said that he was investigating the situation, I have no reason to believe he wasn't. Trumps never made any claim other than the fact that there was some contention as to Obamas place of birth and that the issue should be resolved. We may never know what his investigators found, maybe nothing, but regardless, Trump forced Obama into resolving the issue, or at least attempting to.
    He lied about investigating the situatiom for starters.


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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Yeah, I would agree with this, but it probably wouldn't have happened anyway. He probably has analysts looking at the numbers, and they decided now was a good time..
    He is in a massive hole and needed a break from the ass kicking he is getting for mishandling just about everything he touches. But this will pass swiftly and be a mere footnote about a President who was not forthcoming about his origin of birth.

    When this moment passes, Obama's severe political hemorrhaging will continue, until he's finally removed from office in 2012.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    First, Trump says now we can get on talking about more important issues and gives a grocery list of things HE thinks are important...

    NOW, he's talking about Obama's academic records and all the RUMORS that he was a bad student...

    Asshole.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I agree, but that goes back to me saying it was politically intelligent to do it, not a "flinch". People will at times midnlessly go along or buy something they hear a bunch, and since Trump is a big name and gets attention then the topic gets talked about more. Its the same as people thinking Bush said Iraq was involved in 9/11...Bush never said it, but people heard it repeated so much that they started to buy in. Same thing here. So because a big name grabbed it and was causing it to be talked about more, more people start wondering based on mob mentality of stupidity, and thus it was politically advantageous of him to put a stop to it.

    If the poll numbers didn't go up, THEN Obama would've been "Flinching" because Trump would've had no effect and he would be reacting out of fear that Trump WOULD have an affect.

    However that's not the case. This is more a case, taking the punching analogy, of Trump actually hitting Obama in the arm a few times and Obama finally getting annoyed with the slow escalation of how sore his arm is getting and so reaches over and gives a punch right back finally.
    a knockout punch, in fact.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    yeah, I'm modifying my position, see my last post. I essentially agree with you, however, the fact remains, Trump forced him into this position.
    Just saw that. Yep. Its not a flinch so much as a return punch from someone who finally got annoyed by the gnat flicking at his arm. Trump forced him into the position...which isn't any great accomplishment or heroic thing. It just shows that Politics is as suspectable to the "celebrity" affect as anything else in this country, and that if you're famous enough to get attention you can repeat crap enough to make people think there may be merit to it. Big name person says something, news covers it because its a big name person, people hear big name person saying something on news and assume it must be something somewhat legitimate because its on the news and someone they know of is saying it.

    Trump is to politics what Kim Kardashian is to hollywood. An entity that is relevant and well known for no other reason then their celebrity, who can get people thinking and acting a certain way not because of anything legitimate but simply because they're big names.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    He is in a massive hole and needed a break from the ass kicking he is getting for mishandling just about everything he touches. But this will pass swiftly and be a mere footnote about a President who was not forthcoming about his origin of birth.
    Yes, the legal birth certificate that's been on the internet for 2+ years was not forthcoming enough for far-righties and bigots looking for any way to discredit the president.

    When this moment passes, Obama's severe political hemorrhaging will continue, until he's finally removed from office in 2012.

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    Thanks to Trump the independents and right of centers who may have been persuaded by birfer rumors will now get to vote for the best candidate.

    Well done, Trump. You just undercut the GOP's xenophobia and bigotry talking points.

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