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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Do you think the government grew more under his administration than it did during the previous? Really?

    I believe it did. However, that is not to say that both repubs, as well haven't been responsible for government creep.

    We will eventually be looking at universal health care, or bankruptcy. We can't sustain our current system much longer.
    Having Sugar daddy government is not my idea in how to bring down costs of anything. Can you point to anything that the government does that actually comes in at, or under budget?

    Oh, and Obama still does not control the price of oil
    The moment he steps out and announces that the US is going to aggressively persue its own resources, the price will speculate down even before we see a single drop. The crime here is that everyone knows that including demos and they still won't do anything to help the poor and working classes in reducing their costs in this arena. Shameful.

    If the price is high, it is not his fault. When it goes down, as it is now, that is not his credit. How much power do we attribute to the presidency, anyway?
    The President has in his power to sign into law regulation, and policy that have strangled the oil, coal, and nat gas industries in this country. And he has. That is a direct effect, as much as you would like everyone to believe something else.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I believe it did.
    I'm not so sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    However, that is not to say that both repubs, as well haven't been responsible for government creep.


    Yes, both have been responsible for the out of control growth of government and resultant unsustainable spending.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Having Sugar daddy government is not my idea in how to bring down costs of anything. Can you point to anything that the government does that actually comes in at, or under budget?
    Every other government sponsors a universal health care in one form or another, and all of them are less expensive than what we have. If we can't do it too, then it's time to make some radical changes to our government.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The moment he steps out and announces that the US is going to aggressively persue its own resources, the price will speculate down even before we see a single drop. The crime here is that everyone knows that including demos and they still won't do anything to help the poor and working classes in reducing their costs in this arena. Shameful.
    By that, do you mean that the government is going to aggressively pursue our domestic resources?

    What about all of the oil and gas leases that are just waiting? Why doesn't the private sector exploit them? (Hint: profitability of the resources and cost of extraction.)


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The President has in his power to sign into law regulation, and policy that have strangled the oil, coal, and nat gas industries in this country. And he has. That is a direct effect, as much as you would like everyone to believe something else.

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    All by himself?

    No, the president of a Constitutional Republic with a capitalistic economic system simply doesn't have that kind of power.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Everything we know almost nothing about Obama. This is one of the most secretive presidents and he runs a very secretive and tight lipped administration.
    Of course, that's the way he should be. His military plans are top secret, and everything else he ventures to say is twisted by his opposition all out of proportion.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Do you think the government grew more under his administration than it did during the previous? Really?

    We will eventually be looking at universal health care, or bankruptcy. We can't sustain our current system much longer.

    Oh, and Obama still does not control the price of oil (that's from elsewhere in this thread, not the quote). If the price is high, it is not his fault. When it goes down, as it is now, that is not his credit. How much power do we attribute to the presidency, anyway?
    How about the free enterprise system? Has that occurred to anyone in the Obama administration

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How about the free enterprise system? Has that occurred to anyone in the Obama administration
    The free enterprise system... hmm... is that the same as capitalism? Why, now there's a novel idea. Let's try capitalism, since it has never been tried yet in this country. You may be on to something.

    yes, folks, that was just more of that nasty old sarcasm. Nothing to see here, nothing to take seriously.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The free enterprise system... hmm... is that the same as capitalism? Why, now there's a novel idea. Let's try capitalism, since it has never been tried yet in this country. You may be on to something.

    yes, folks, that was just more of that nasty old sarcasm. Nothing to see here, nothing to take seriously.
    Quite right! It was socialism that made America great.

    Perhaps more of it will finally bring America the success its brought other countries. The government always spends money more wisely than the great unwashed can.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The price of gas has doubled since Obama became president. I am right now in Gary Indiana which is basically Chicago and the price of gas is over 4 dollars a gallon

    Gasoline up 100% under Obama - Washington Times
    Yes, and it was above $5.00 in the windy during bushes second term...so?
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Obama has so far been the opposite of just about everything he has claimed, other than working to drive of fuel costs and thus the cost of everything.
    One thing he did deliver on and did it well: Getting OBL
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    One thing he did deliver on and did it well: Getting OBL
    And deserves credit.

    But neither President Bush or President Obama wanted to magnify Osama's importance, and both downplayed the necessity of capturing or killing him.

    Barack Obama: killing Osama bin Laden not essential - Telegraph

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And deserves credit.

    But neither President Bush or President Obama wanted to magnify Osama's importance, and both downplayed the necessity of capturing or killing him.

    Barack Obama: killing Osama bin Laden not essential - Telegraph
    Oh, I know right!? Especially with this line. "My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him."

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