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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Mabye he lost that copy... I know I have lost a few copies of my bc, or maybe he was actually talking about the COLB...
    I've considered that. I have not found where 0bama stated he looked for his BC but failed to find it. Have you?
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Look, he released his long bc and it didn't shut them up. They are still going. They are claiming this bc is fake and photoshopped. They are claiming whatever they can claim to keep this going. The only thing to see now, is if people like Bachmann and Trump are still going to pander to those people... They shouldn't have been pandering to the ignorant in the first place.
    I have seen several videos where people downloaded the BC on the WH website, entered into Adobe Illustrator, and started removing the layers.

    Stuff starts disappearing. I'm no computer expert to be sure so I'm waiting for a legitimate organization to analyze it.

    Even if it is proven to be a fake I still don't think that's proof 0bama is not a natural born citizen.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    He released the very birth certificate everyone born in Hawaii gets. No one there gets the long form. You birthers are beyond idiotic. Obama did not spend a dime or one minute in court trying to hide the long form kept on file in Hawaii.
    I really can't believe there are people as dense as you birthers.
    I'm not a birther so stuff your BS.

    Yet another lefty who has no idea 0bama stated he has a copy of his original BC in his book Dreams of My Father.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    I'm not a birther so stuff your BS.

    Yet another lefty who has no idea 0bama stated he has a copy of his original BC in his book Dreams of My Father.
    Not what he said. You added the word original. I have a copy in my box as well, but it is a copy.

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    I've considered that. I have not found where 0bama stated he looked for his BC but failed to find it. Have you?
    lol... well it's not a far fetched idea

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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    lol... well it's not a far fetched idea
    No it isn't a far fetched idea. It could be true. I lost my passport and had to replace it.

    Did you find where 0bama says he lost the BC mentioned in his book? I haven't.

    I only started looking into this issue about a month ago, before Trump's meltdown.

    About 95% of the crap birthers have come up with has been soundly debunked.

    I'm trying to stick with what is factual and trying to come up with a logical reason why 0bama would keep this going for so long. I really had no idea he was fighting court cases to prevent releasing his BC or that people are claiming his COLB and his BC are fake.

    The COLB released to the DailyKos is the best resolution and there is no seal on it. Months later when FactCheck photographed it the seal is there. That's kind of strange don't you think?

    My only conclusion, and it may be completely wrong, is that he's doing this for political reasons.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Sigh.....



    Sure would be dandy if you would look it up yourself instead of making baseless accusations.

    Berg took his case to the SCOTUS. He's a certifiable crackpot.

    Two other birther crackpots are still at it even though 0bama has finally released his BC.

    Lawyers in court; unfazed by Obama's birth certificate | abc7.com
    Did you read the article? By "didn't provide" the author means he hasn't released it to the public/media.

    "Officials in Hawaii say they have located President Obama's birth certificate indicating that he was born in the state, but have yet to produce the document at the heart of a long-simmering conspiracy theory."

    I am well aware of Orly and her cases, however all of these have have been dismissed before even reaching a trial.

    I was hoping you'd provide a case where Obama personally has spent 2 million dollars. The birthers cases you showed were all dismissed before serious legal representation is required, plus I'm pretty sure that the White House has a team of lawyers on retainer and as such I refuse to believe these cases cost anywhere near the figures your throwing out.

    I'm still waiting for a reason as to why he would complicate this birth certificate nonsense, especially when it hasn't fooled anybody in the political scene.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    No it isn't a far fetched idea. It could be true. I lost my passport and had to replace it.

    Did you find where 0bama says he lost the BC mentioned in his book? I haven't.

    I only started looking into this issue about a month ago, before Trump's meltdown.

    About 95% of the crap birthers have come up with has been soundly debunked.

    I'm trying to stick with what is factual and trying to come up with a logical reason why 0bama would keep this going for so long. I really had no idea he was fighting court cases to prevent releasing his BC or that people are claiming his COLB and his BC are fake.

    The COLB released to the DailyKos is the best resolution and there is no seal on it. Months later when FactCheck photographed it the seal is there. That's kind of strange don't you think?

    My only conclusion, and it may be completely wrong, is that he's doing this for political reasons.
    Only 95%?

    Of course, everything the president does is for political reasons. Did he start the birther nonsense? No. Did he keep it going? Probably not. The silly conspiracy theorists did that. Did the birther nonsense and subsequent release of the long demanded "long form" help him? Sure. It made his opponents look silly, even by extension the ones who didn't buy into the birtherism. Is the so called debate over his citizenship over? No, of course not. Now, the lunatic fringe is going to claim that the BC was a fake, thus making themselves look even sillier and detracting attention from the real issues.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by megrimlock View Post
    I'm still waiting for a reason as to why he would complicate this birth certificate nonsense, especially when it hasn't fooled anybody in the political scene.
    Of course political implications.

    Anyone looking into 0bama's past can be written off as a birther.
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    Re: Obama to speak on birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Only 95%?

    Of course, everything the president does is for political reasons. Did he start the birther nonsense? No. Did he keep it going? Probably not. The silly conspiracy theorists did that. Did the birther nonsense and subsequent release of the long demanded "long form" help him? Sure. It made his opponents look silly, even by extension the ones who didn't buy into the birtherism. Is the so called debate over his citizenship over? No, of course not. Now, the lunatic fringe is going to claim that the BC was a fake, thus making themselves look even sillier and detracting attention from the real issues.
    Have you downloaded the COLB from DailyKos and looked at it? There is no seal.

    Have you viewed the videos of people putting his BC in Adobe and watched stuff disappear? It's very strange.

    I'm waiting for a credible organization not tied to birthers to do an analysis and make a judgement.

    And yeah, about 95% is crap.
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