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    Re: WI Democrats ready to submit signatures to recall 6th Republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I'm at least clued in enough to realize that just getting the signatures doesn't mean that a recall will happen. I'm also clued in enough to realize that dems won't capture control of the senate and, based on the Prosser election results, the dems have a good chance to win the Kepanke(R) seat and the hooper(R) seat (but that's probably more due to his personal issues) and the dems have a real chance of losing 3.
    They still have to be voted out, right?
    The way the union thugs act with death threats and boycotts, I might sign the petitions too. They woundn't be there intimidating me I voted.
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    Re: WI Democrats ready to submit signatures to recall 6th Republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    They still have to be voted out, right?
    The way the union thugs act with death threats and boycotts, I might sign the petitions too. They woundn't be there intimidating me I voted.
    Please cut the over the top hyperpartisan BS. You know as well as I do that although threats have been made that they are from the fringe. If you can provide evidence that the people obtaining signatures are being physically threatened, I will back down.

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    Re: WI Democrats ready to submit signatures to recall 6th Republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    That's a bit disingenuous. Prosser was leading by an astronomical amount before any of the union legislation happened. While it's possible that these numbers are an indicator of what might happen they are by no means a crystal ball. No WI SC justice has ever been elected out of office. That's not quite the case in the senate.
    You mean Prosser was winning by an astronomical amount prior to the unions turning the legislation into a referendum on Walker and the "anti-union" bill. Even after that occured and the unions spent so much money on getting the word out, they still lost in most of the districts in question.

    I would expect recall elections to be fairly similar to the Prosser elections, with the caveat that democrats were very worked up in the SC election and turned out to vote. While I would assume democrats will be just as worked up for the recall elections, that doesn't really translate into too many more votes. Republicans were not really worked up in the last election, so they have quite a bit of room to grow turnout numbers in these areas.

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    Re: WI Democrats ready to submit signatures to recall 6th Republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    You mean Prosser was winning by an astronomical amount prior to the unions turning the legislation into a referendum on Walker and the "anti-union" bill. Even after that occured and the unions spent so much money on getting the word out, they still lost in most of the districts in question.

    I would expect recall elections to be fairly similar to the Prosser elections, with the caveat that democrats were very worked up in the SC election and turned out to vote. While I would assume democrats will be just as worked up for the recall elections, that doesn't really translate into too many more votes. Republicans were not really worked up in the last election, so they have quite a bit of room to grow turnout numbers in these areas.
    But Prosser won by a MUCH smaller margin than predicted, against an opponent who practically unknown and all but guaranteed to lose. Now, I'm not saying that your prediction might not turn out to be right, but I think the situations are just a little too different to hold any real sway.

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    Re: WI Democrats ready to submit signatures to recall 6th Republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Please cut the over the top hyperpartisan BS. You know as well as I do that although threats have been made that they are from the fringe. If you can provide evidence that the people obtaining signatures are being physically threatened, I will back down.
    There were quite a few stories in the WI papers about the initimidation that the republican signature gathers were under and the difficulties they had getting people that (allegedly) wanted to sign, but felt intimidated by the union protestors that formed "bloackades" around the signature gatheres.

    The newstory that I am specifically thinking of went into details about the measures the gatheres had to take to fool the union guys into thinking they would be in one place, but would actualyl be in another. They would have to be constantly on the move to stay one step ahead of the protestors, since the protestors would eventually figure out where they were actually at.

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    Re: WI Democrats ready to submit signatures to recall 6th Republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    There were quite a few stories in the WI papers about the initimidation that the republican signature gathers were under and the difficulties they had getting people that (allegedly) wanted to sign, but felt intimidated by the union protestors that formed "bloackades" around the signature gatheres.

    The newstory that I am specifically thinking of went into details about the measures the gatheres had to take to fool the union guys into thinking they would be in one place, but would actualyl be in another. They would have to be constantly on the move to stay one step ahead of the protestors, since the protestors would eventually figure out where they were actually at.
    If you can find the article, I would like to read it and make a legitimate, educated response.

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    Re: WI Democrats ready to submit signatures to recall 6th Republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    There were quite a few stories in the WI papers about the initimidation that the republican signature gathers were under and the difficulties they had getting people that (allegedly) wanted to sign, but felt intimidated by the union protestors that formed "bloackades" around the signature gatheres.

    The newstory that I am specifically thinking of went into details about the measures the gatheres had to take to fool the union guys into thinking they would be in one place, but would actualyl be in another. They would have to be constantly on the move to stay one step ahead of the protestors, since the protestors would eventually figure out where they were actually at.
    here it is. I guess some would act like they were going to sign, then they'd write **** You on it. Real cute, huh? I don't think we are dealing with adults.
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    Re: WI Democrats ready to submit signatures to recall 6th Republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    If you can find the article, I would like to read it and make a legitimate, educated response.
    Not even sure where to find it. You can try searching. To help out, one of the details I recall was that on one of the lsat days of the recall effort, the republicans bought teh protestors coffee and doughnuts to show no hard feelings. The protestor "boss" (or whatever) expressed how classy they thought the gatheres were through the entire effort.

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    Re: WI Democrats ready to submit signatures to recall 6th Republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Care to back that up?
    How is it you know about the GOP but not the 3 democrats being recalled?

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    Re: WI Democrats ready to submit signatures to recall 6th Republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    They still have to be voted out, right?
    The way the union thugs act with death threats and boycotts, I might sign the petitions too. They woundn't be there intimidating me I voted.
    Union thugs in Wisconsin bully recall workers, destroy petitions - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

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