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    Re: Pakistan allows transsexuals to have own gender category (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'm not sure they're defying any stereotypes yet. In the case of Pakistan I think it would be far better to see what is done with this list, should anybody be willing to put themselves on it.
    Is it really a "list" or is it, as the article makes it sound, a type of classification? I think this is simply a matter of a new category of gender, and additional rights for such people.

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    Re: Pakistan allows transsexuals to have own gender category (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Is it really a "list" or is it, as the article makes it sound, a type of classification? I think this is simply a matter of a new category of gender, and additional rights for such people.
    If it's a classification listed on legal documents there will be a list somewhere of those classifying themselves that way...
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    Re: Pakistan allows transsexuals to have own gender category (video)

    I feel very uneasy about this. Homosexuality and sodomy are punishable by prison sentences in Pakistan. It seems that the country is not allowing transgendered people to choose their gender of choice, but rather register as a transgendered person. I am just skeptical about it.
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    Re: Pakistan allows transsexuals to have own gender category (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    If it's a classification listed on legal documents there will be a list somewhere of those classifying themselves that way...
    Here, I found another article:
    Pakistani transgenders get expanded rights - World Watch - CBS News

    From all accounts this is a good thing for the transgendered community in Pakistan, it is an expansion of their rights. Interpreting it as a "list" that is detrimental to them is the sort of false stereotype held by Americans that Redress was talking about earlier.

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    Re: Pakistan allows transsexuals to have own gender category (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I feel very uneasy about this. Homosexuality and sodomy are punishable by prison sentences in Pakistan. It seems that the country is not allowing transgendered people to choose their gender of choice, but rather register as a transgendered person. I am just skeptical about it.
    Yeah, it makes no sense to me, why wouldn't they just label them as male, or female, instead of singling them out.
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    Re: Pakistan allows transsexuals to have own gender category (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I feel very uneasy about this. Homosexuality and sodomy are punishable by prison sentences in Pakistan. It seems that the country is not allowing transgendered people to choose their gender of choice, but rather register as a transgendered person. I am just skeptical about it.
    You're framing this incorrectly. This isn't about homosexuality, it is about transgendered people. The two groups may be linked in the USA but not necessarily so in Pakistan.
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    Re: Pakistan allows transsexuals to have own gender category (video)

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    Yeah, it makes no sense to me, why wouldn't they just label them as male, or female, instead of singling them out.
    Because it's a third gender.

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    Re: Pakistan allows transsexuals to have own gender category (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Because it's a third gender.
    Most trans people as far as I know don't want to be labeled as a "third" gender though, they want to be labeled as their desired gender.
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    Re: Pakistan allows transsexuals to have own gender category (video)

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    Most trans people as far as I know don't want to be labeled as a "third" gender though, they want to be labeled as their desired gender.
    Of course I don't doubt that. But it's a different culture in Pakistan.

    See this article in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)
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    Re: Pakistan allows transsexuals to have own gender category (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Of course I don't doubt that. But it's a different culture in Pakistan.

    See this article in wikipedia: Hijra (South Asia) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    True, all my knowledge comes with a western perspective, but you can't blame me for being skeptical. Also it leaves out FTM, which is underestimated as part of the trans community IMO.
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