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    Re: Ford has best first quarter in 13 years with $2.6-billion profit

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    It's rare that a business that tries to rip off all of its customers all the time would be able to post these kinds of profits Except only under extreme circumstances people don't buy **** if they don't think they're getting a fair deal.
    Where did that preposterous profit come from? Over charging a family of five struggling to make ends meet who should have paid at least a couple thousand less.

    They should build a big ship with the money. Load it with all the stockholders and hit a massive ice berg. And sing Nearer My God To Thee.

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    Re: Ford has best first quarter in 13 years with $2.6-billion profit

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Wow, you mean unions are willing to sacrifice for the good of the company but expect that the company will return the favor once things are rolling again?

    THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
    Or they sacrificed to save themselves. Michigan has been in a downward spiral of unemployment for quite some time. Companies were leaving that state before the recession even thought about beginning. If Ford had gone under, or had moved out of the state or country to try and maintain itself then those people would have been completely out of work. They would have had to uproot their families and move for a chance at a job.

    I'll be the last person to paint unions as heroes and I hardly think they were being selfless here. It was pretty much a choice between "more likely to keep my job if" and "can we afford to move to Texas or another positive-growth state if this collapses?"...
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    Re: Ford has best first quarter in 13 years with $2.6-billion profit

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Where did that preposterous profit come from? Over charging a family of five struggling to make ends meet who should have paid at least a couple thousand less.

    They should build a big ship with the money. Load it with all the stockholders and hit a massive ice berg. And sing Nearer My God To Thee.
    you seem to not get how economics works. If a consumer thinks they're getting a ****ty deal (of if they just plain can't afford it) they won't buy. Thus, the supplier won't sell and will post no profit There's very few instances in economics where money is made by ripping people off, and the auto industry is definitely not one of them.
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    Re: Ford has best first quarter in 13 years with $2.6-billion profit

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'll be the last person to paint unions as heroes and I hardly think they were being selfless here.
    You just highlighted a free market principle of organized labor. Organized labor has a self interest not to bankrupt or unseat the company for which they work. It can't be argued that unions "bully" corporations in this day and age when corporations are fully capable of up and moving to a nonunionized area. Unions have to maintain a balance between negotiating the perks they want without incentivizing the company to set up shop elsewhere.

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    Re: Ford has best first quarter in 13 years with $2.6-billion profit

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Where did that preposterous profit come from? Over charging a family of five struggling to make ends meet who should have paid at least a couple thousand less.

    They should build a big ship with the money. Load it with all the stockholders and hit a massive ice berg. And sing Nearer My God To Thee.
    Being a stockholder of Ford I guess I should be ticked off. But as the stock is up nicely today I will let it pass.

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    Re: Ford has best first quarter in 13 years with $2.6-billion profit

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    you seem to not get how economics works. If a consumer thinks they're getting a ****ty deal (of if they just plain can't afford it) they won't buy. Thus, the supplier won't sell and will post no profit There's very few instances in economics where money is made by ripping people off, and the auto industry is definitely not one of them.
    By all means get whatever you can during a massive national emergency. What did the government ever do for you? Oh that's right lending you tens of billions of dollars to save your sorry asses. That's the government, the family with 3 kids. Them the people.

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    Re: Ford has best first quarter in 13 years with $2.6-billion profit

    What's wrong with them making a profit? I thought that was one of the beauties of being a part of a capitalistic economic system.

    Another beauty of this system is the fact that Ford isn't the only company that makes cars. So, therefore, if you don't like their prices, buy from another company.

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    Re: Ford has best first quarter in 13 years with $2.6-billion profit

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    By all means get whatever you can during a massive national emergency. What did the government ever do for you? Oh that's right lending you tens of billions of dollars to save your sorry asses. That's the government, the family with 3 kids. Them the people.
    What the **** are you even talking about. Consumer demand GOES DOWN during recessions. People don't even have the money to afford getting ripped off. And for the record, Ford didn't even get bailed out by the government.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Ford has best first quarter in 13 years with $2.6-billion profit

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    What the **** are you even talking about. Consumer demand GOES DOWN during recessions. People don't even have the money to afford getting ripped off. And for the record, Ford didn't even get bailed out by the government.
    Like the rich don't continually rob people blind! Nobody makes 100 million dollars without the infrastructure and the wealth created by our grandfathers. Thieves. Selfish thieves who don't want to share their toys.

    And why don't they ever do stuff to help the poor? Why do our schools totally suck? Why do college students have to starve while they study? Why do the elderly have to suffer spending cuts ? "Ma'am, we'll be needing your wheel chair back. You wouldn't mind just dying, would you? My wife wants this really expensive endangered animal fur coat and you're not helping any."

    Why are there groups like Fred Phelps causing so much anguish? Can't a rich person just make the problem go away? No they can't because they don't give a damn about the poor or anybody. They are just their slaves.

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    Re: Ford has best first quarter in 13 years with $2.6-billion profit

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Like the rich don't continually rob people blind! Nobody makes 100 million dollars without the infrastructure and the wealth created by our grandfathers. Thieves. Selfish thieves who don't want to share their toys.

    And why don't they ever do stuff to help the poor? Why do our schools totally suck? Why do college students have to starve while they study? Why do the elderly have to suffer spending cuts ? "Ma'am, we'll be needing your wheel chair back. You wouldn't mind just dying, would you? My wife wants this really expensive endangered animal fur coat and you're not helping any."

    Why are there groups like Fred Phelps causing so much anguish? Can't a rich person just make the problem go away? No they can't because they don't give a damn about the poor or anybody. They are just their slaves.
    This has nothing to do with the OP. Ford is not robbing people. I sincerely hope that you're just trolling.

    And I can't believe how many times I, as a liberal, have had to defend corporations against moronic comments from people who don't understand how economics works on this board.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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