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Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

Again, you have to prove torture got this information

LOL!

it didn't, no one was tortured

eit's turned ksm (according to the cia inspector general's report released in august, 2009, by THE JUSTICE DEPT)

ksm cooperated, "and to an extraordinary extent," "only after his spirit was broken," became the cia's "preeminent source on al qaeda," named the courier 4 years ago, confirmed by al libi, who was also eit'd...

two years ago the agents found the courier (who is named in the abc piece), last august they found the compound...

and america (even chris matthews) is THRILLED with the results!

just the facts, maam

no spin, lynn
 
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LOL!

it didn't, no one was tortured

eit's turned ksm (according to the cia inspector general's report released in august, 2009, by THE JUSTICE DEPT)

ksm cooperated, "and to an extraordinary extent," "only after his spirit was broken," became the cia's "preeminent source on al qaeda," named the courier 4 years ago, confirmed by al libi, who was also eit'd...

two years ago the agents found the courier (who is named in the abc piece), last august they found the compound...

and america (even chris matthews) is THRILLED with the results!

just the facts, maam

no spin, lynn

Again, Fox news and the links you guys use say they didn't get the name until 2007. Torture ended in 2006. You can't change the facts. As for your old article, as was noted then, no one produced any actual intel they got from KSm that actually done anything. Even the example Cheney gave proved not to be true, as we actually had the information before we torture KSm and got it without torture.

:coffeepap
 
LOL!

you don't know what you're talking about

Best you got? All you have to do is prove actual intel we got due to torture that led to anything.
 

Where is the 24/7 media call for the war criminal 0bama to be impeached and put on trial like they did for Bush?

Where are the lefty protests? Where it the "illegal war" BS we've seen for years?

The answer is obvious. When it's one of their own the left ignores it.


[Its given rights to spies, Mexican bandits, pirates....

None of them are POW's or captured terrorists.

So you looked and couldn't find a single example.

Consider yourself punked. I'm sure it's not the first time nor will it be the last.

Slate Magazine!!! :lamo
 
Maybe you should try to understand the differences. Just saying. . . . :coffeepap
 
LOL!

you don't know what you're talking about

You should have been on the forum site where he was a mod.

He gave infractions for proving he was wrong.

I nailed him so many times there it's the reason he keeps following me around on this site.
 
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Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison | World news | The Guardian

Here is the file with the fifteen year old boy that was a kidnap victim

I'm not shocked that these people would "interrogate" children. People that supported in keeping this prison are sick and I hate that Obama is keeping it open. Yeah, lets keep open a prison were children were interrogated for being terrorist

Part of my job includes killing any child who picks up a weapon and becomes a threat to my buddies. So much less than that is holding that same child in US custody for questioning. Not that the war on terror is a police matter, but regarding the detention of a 15 y/o by an authority, even a 15 y/o busted for possession will be threatened with much more and 'detained' until he's willing to rat out others. This is a non-issue.
 
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Where is the 24/7 media call for the war criminal 0bama to be impeached and put on trial like they did for Bush?

Where are the lefty protests? Where it the "illegal war" BS we've seen for years?

The answer is obvious. When it's one of their own the left ignores it.

Uhh they are still here bud. You just have to pick you head out of the sand....




None of them are POW's or captured terrorists.

So you looked and couldn't find a single example.

First off what is a "terrorist"?
Were and are pirates terrorists?
Were and are bandits terrorists?
They are not citizens of this country, they were captured and imprisoned and given constitutional rights....
And woah woah wait, i thought terrorists cannot be given the status of "Prisoner Of War"...


Consider yourself punked. I'm sure it's not the first time nor will it be the last.

:roll: Good one. I bet you feel special...
Really do not know what you are celebrating about....
 
I just want to remind all the liberals on this thread that these people were captured on the battlefield and from known terrorist compounds, they weren't kidnapped from the parking lot at Wal Mart. Everyone at Gitmo could have been shot on the spot, would liberals prefer that?
 
the links you guys use

says the solon who cites the SYDNEY (australia) MORNING HERALD to make some non-point about teacher retention in new york city

LOL!
 
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says the poser who links to the SYDNEY (australia) MORNING HERALD to make some non-point about teacher retention in new york city

LOL!

Can you read? Just asking as your reponse makes no sense to what you're replying to. :shrug:
 
says the solon who cites the SYDNEY (australia) MORNING HERALD to make some non-point about teacher retention in new york city

LOL!

yea
no way can facts and conclusions and opinions be fungible
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I just want to remind all the liberals on this thread that these people were captured on the battlefield and from known terrorist compounds, they weren't kidnapped from the parking lot at Wal Mart. Everyone at Gitmo could have been shot on the spot, would liberals prefer that?

That's true for some but not all. One of those who died was a taxi driver singled out by one of enemies to help him get in with us.

But here's one example of someone not picked up on the battlefield:


An example: Mauritanian Mohamedou Slahi, 40, a German-trained computer technician shown squinting for the cameras at Guantanamo. He was arrested in his North African homeland after Sept. 11, sent to Jordan for interrogation and then in August 2002 to Guantanamo, where Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld had him subjected to so-called enhanced interrogation.



Read more: For first time, Guantanamo's detainees come into view - Politics Wires - MiamiHerald.com
 
Uhh they are still here bud. You just have to pick you head out of the sand....

NYC is full of candle toting lefties? It is?

Where is the "NO War For Oil" crowd?

First off what is a "terrorist"?
Were and are pirates terrorists?
Were and are bandits terrorists?
They are not citizens of this country, they were captured and imprisoned and given constitutional rights....
And woah woah wait, i thought terrorists cannot be given the status of "Prisoner Of War"...

So I was right. You looked it up and couldn't find a single example of a POW or terrorist given US constitutional rights.

It took the modern left to even think of something so stupid.
 
meanwhile:

ksm was captured in march, 03, and was subjected to harsh eit's

within a month, he caved

he subsequently became langley's "preeminent aq source," he conducted "terrorist tutorials"

one of the many names he offered up, dozens of operatives our agents had never heard of, was the courier to ubl

it was al libi, also waterboarded, who informed us of the significance of sheikh abu ahmed

neither wapo nor abc (the only sources cited) mention exactly when ksm and al libi fingered sheikh abu

but it is clear in all accounts that this key intelligence was uncovered during the time when ksm was cooperating---"and to an extraordinary extent"---with his interrogators

that is, in the months when ksm was conducting his "tutorials"

it is what is, folks, them's the facts as reported by wapo and abc

and of course the msm's are ultimately reliant for their reportage on THE CIA'S INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT

which was released in 2009 by THE DEPT OF JUSTICE
 
But did not give up the name, and we know of nothing proven that helped. We only have claims that he gave up important information. We only know he confessed to everything, which torture is good at getting. So repeating claims that he caved doesn't provide evidence that we actually got anythign.

I repeat, immates started giving information in 2007. Torture stopped in 2006. Please address this. :coffeepap
 
NYC is full of candle toting lefties? It is?

Where is the "NO War For Oil" crowd?

You do realize that you know the bing NAFTA, G20, G8, meetings ever seen those protests? Or how about the RNC/DNC protests, or maybe you should just go on a liberal university campus..



So I was right. You looked it up and couldn't find a single example of a POW or terrorist given US constitutional rights.

Are pirates, bandits, would they be considered "terrorists" back then?
Also i never actually claimed that a terrorist have had constitutional rights i am just saying i believe they do have constitutional rights.... That is my whole point.

It took the modern left to even think of something so stupid.

Yea sense you know you proved me wrong :roll:
Conservatives are real smart you know. Iraq had WMDS, empowering terrorists that later come around and attack us.. Real smart!
 
You do realize that you know the bing NAFTA, G20, G8, meetings ever seen those protests? Or how about the RNC/DNC protests, or maybe you should just go on a liberal university campus..

No candle toting lefties in NYC. No protesters in DC. Nothing.

Are pirates, bandits, would they be considered "terrorists" back then?

No.

Also i never actually claimed that a terrorist have had constitutional rights i am just saying i believe they do have constitutional rights.... That is my whole point.

Do I have to go back and find your quote? Would you admit it then? No!?! I didn't think so.

Iraq had WMDS

Read the ISG report. The key findings is only 19 pages long.

Saddam had nuclear weapons plans, long range missile plans, and his IIS had clandestine labs producing chemical weapons.

From the ISG report:
Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability—which was essentially destroyed in 1991—after sanctions
were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized, but probably with a different mix of capabilities to that
which previously existed. Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability—in an incremental fashion,
irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks—but he intended to focus on ballistic
missile and tactical chemical warfare (CW) capabilities.


empowering terrorists that later come around and attack us

They were attacking us long before OIF. Where have you been?
 
These two statements are experiencing internal logical conflict. The tactics utilized under Obama led to the death of Osama Bin Laden.

How long do you plan to be a torture cheerleader?

No logical conflic at all.

The information gathered by EIT's led to Osama's death.

I guess you don't know that Bush asked lawyers at the Justice Department what they could do to interrogate captured prisoners.

That's how the EIT's came about.
 
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