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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    We cannot count on any info that is gained from torture as it is unreliable. See this this this, and this. Thus, anyone whom we have tortured at Gitmo we cannot try and say that we have truly produced a fair trial.
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

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    You're a socialist, you're not for anything America ever stood for.
    Apparently America stands for not undestanding what socialism is. Sure you've heard it a million times but.... ever visited a public library?

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Oh please, here more information.




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    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Apparently America stands for not undestanding what socialism is. Sure you've heard it a million times but.... ever visited a public library?

    .burn.
    Yeah, I went to the W&M library, maybe that's the problem.
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    You would be wrong. Nothing justifies not adhereing to rule of law. Nothing justifies risking harming innocent people. We're a noble and brave people. We should not be so scared that we become more like that which we fight than our better self.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You got lots of guts posting a Young Turks video up here for a conservative.
    Meh, I really don't care I love my guts and thanks for the complement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You would be wrong. Nothing justifies not adhereing to rule of law. Nothing justifies risking harming innocent people. We're a noble and brave people. We should not be so scared that we become more like that which we fight than our better self.
    If you knew everything that happened in WWII you'd probably throw up. It happens in every war, and you want to go crucify individuals who were probably doing their duty at that moment. You don't know the entire cirucumstance, and neither do I; but Monday morning quarterbacking isn't justified. If only we were perfect, if only we were clarvoyant, if only the media was unbiased, if none of the facts were missing from the story or weren't classified.....if only.
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If you knew everything that happened in WWII you'd probably throw up. It happens in every war, and you want to go crucify individuals who were probably doing their duty at that moment. You don't know the entire cirucumstance, and neither do I; but Monday morning quarterbacking isn't justified. If only we were perfect, if only we were clarvoyant, if only the media was unbiased, if none of the facts were missing from the story or weren't classified.....if only.
    I know a lot, and we did a lot of wrong. That does not justify doing wrong. Noble and brave people do not justfiy wrong because it happened before. It's not monday morning quarterbacking, it's standing up for core values. You either have them or you don't. You either adhere to rule of law or you don't.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I know a lot, and we did a lot of wrong. That does not justify doing wrong. Noble and brave people do not justfiy wrong because it happened before. It's not monday morning quarterbacking, it's standing up for core values. You either have them or you don't. You either adhere to rule of law or you don't.
    You assume the allegation of wrong doing by the soldiers is true, while I question it. I don't go in with the assumption that our soldiers are evil assholes, I assume there is discipline and training particular to handling prisoners. And as far as what the kid did, I don't assume from the start that the kid was just walking along when these soldiers snatched him up and files bogus charges.
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Sooo im guessing im sick because i dont support torture? I dont support questionable methods of interrogation? I dont support fair trials? I dont support the right to habeus corpus? I dont support people who have been innocent being held for years and years on end?

    Your right i am "sick".. Sorry i believe in the right of law.... Something i thought America stood for.. Oh well im just "sick."



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