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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Neithe r them nor you have given what I asked for.
    them didn't give you what you asked for?

    LOL!

    i'm so sorry

    them gave me a great deal of info

    most extremely useful

    "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"

    after a month of brutal eit's in a secret prison in europe ksm "cooperated, and to an extraordinary extent"

    ksm "transformed" into langley's "preeminent source on aq"

    the 9-11 mastermind conducted "terrorist tutorials"

    "detainees in mid 2003 helped us build a list of 70 individuals---many of whom we had never heard of"

    "cross referencing material from different detainees and leveraging information from one to extract more detail from another, the cia and fbi went on to round up operatives both in the us and abroad"

    "ksm was an unparalleled source in deciphering aq's strategic doctrine, key operatives and likely targets"

    america is grateful barack the slasher hussein did NOT dismantle the anti terror techniques of his predecessors, including the maintencance of gitmo, the detention of terrorists and resort to the patriot act, thus allowing our heroic seals to assassinate the target

    USA!

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    america is grateful barack the slasher hussein did NOT dismantle the anti terror techniques of his predecessors, including the maintencance of gitmo, the detention of terrorists and resort to the patriot act, thus allowing our heroic seals to assassinate the target
    As you see, it OK that The Obama does the terrible things that GWB did, because The Obama has a (D) next to His name.
    What's the lesson here?
    The -only- issue the Democrats had with GWB is that he wasn't a Democrat.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    As you see, it OK that The Obama does the terrible things that GWB did, because The Obama has a (D) next to His name.
    What's the lesson here?
    The -only- issue the Democrats had with GWB is that he wasn't a Democrat.
    He hasn't done what Bush did. This effort to make apples look like tree frogs really doesn't work.

    But all anyone has to do is provide what I asked for. The Prof can't. And no one else has. I assume it can't be done.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    what kind of idiot expects crib notes from those "terrorist tutorials"

    LOL!

    NOT eric holder

    he's satisfied with:

    "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"

    after a month of brutal eit's in a secret prison in europe ksm "cooperated, and to an extraordinary extent"

    ksm "transformed" into langley's "preeminent source on aq"

    "detainees in mid 2003 helped us build a list of 70 individuals---many of whom we had never heard of"

    "cross referencing material from different detainees and leveraging information from one to extract more detail from another, the cia and fbi went on to round up operatives both in the us and abroad"

    "ksm was an unparalleled source in deciphering aq's strategic doctrine, key operatives and likely targets"

    america is satisfied too

    credit goes to barack the slasher hussein for his comprehensive FAILURE to dismantle the anti terror techniques which enabled this assassination

    USA!

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Prof you are a complete idiot and an insult to the intelligence community. To say that torturing people brought UBL to justice is complete crap and you know that. This is the work of hundreds of people every single day to track down every single lead and monitor every single discrepancy and piecing a puzzle together to find him. This is not because of waterboarding. That simple.

    ARe you going to continue with your eric holder BARACK THE SLASHER ERIC HOLDER SAYS WATERBOARDING IG REPORT WORKED INSPECTOR GENERAL SLASHER OBAMA garbage or are you going to bring up a valid point? If not, then shut up.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    after a month of brutal waterboarding in a secret prison in eastern europe ksm "transformed" from "an avowed and truculent enemy of the united states" into langley's "unparalleled source in deciphering aq's strategic doctrine, key operatives and likely targets"

    "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"

    cia inspector general's report released by eric holder's doj on the monday preceding august 29, 2009

    it's pretty plain

    america is grateful that president barack the slash FAILED to dismantle the anti terror techniques he inherited from previous administrations---including gitmo, detention, the patriot act---thus allowing this assassination to go down

    USA!

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Check out this article.. interview with Robert Mueller, head of the FBI, which is the agency that is mandated to fight terrorism. Tortured Reasoning | The Magazine | Vanity Fair

    Question: So far as you are aware, have any attacks on America been disrupted thanks to intelligence obtained through what the administration still calls “enhanced techniques”?

    Answer (from Mueller): I don’t believe that has been the case.

    We can quote people back and fourth all day if you like. There is no hard intel gained from these methods and there is no proof they worked. end of story.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    mr mueller, not charged with investigating events at gitmo and elsewhere, unlike the ig, says he believes eit's played no role

    the ig, in contrast, is conclusive

    "waterboarding... elicited a lot of information"

    "detainees in mid 2003 helped us build a list of 70 individuals---many of whom we had never heard of"

    "cross referencing material from different detainees and leveraging information from one to extract more detail from another, the cia and fbi went on to round up operatives both in the us and abroad"

    "ksm was an unparalleled source in deciphering aq's strategic doctrine, key operatives and likely targets"

    mr mueller's views, also unlike the ig's, were not endorsed by eric holder

    america is fortunate that president slash FAILED so miserably in his almost ethereal attempts to dismantle the anti terror machinery---including gitmo, detention and the patriot act---put in place by slash's predecessors

    thus allowing this assassination of ubl

    USA!

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Waterboarding was never performed at gitmo. That part of your argument was just thrown out. Let's see if I can take care of the rest now...

    Quote from a 2004 inspector general report released by the Obama admin in 2009 showed that there is no conclusive proof that information gained from aggressive interrogations helped thwart any "specific imminent attacks" (right from the report).

    You can go to aclu or another site and read the inspector general reports for yourself.

    Read more: Cheney's speech ignored some inconvenient truths | McClatchy

    Read this by John McCain by the way, who spoke to intelligence officials and discredited your arguments that torture found UBL.
    Bin Laden’s death and the debate over torture - The Washington Post

    By the way, what are you leaving out in this quote here? "waterboarding... elicited a lot of information"
    Is that ... the word "didn't"?

    Quote from John McCain's convo with Leon Panetta:

    "He [KSM] specifically told his interrogators that Abu Ahmed had moved to Peshawar, got married and ceased his role as an al-Qaeda facilitator — none of which was true. According to the staff of the Senate intelligence committee, the best intelligence gained from a CIA detainee — information describing Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti’s real role in al-Qaeda and his true relationship to bin Laden — was obtained through standard, noncoercive means. "
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Waterboarding was never performed at gitmo.
    yup, it occurred in eastern europe

    it "broke his spirit"

    after which he "cooperated, and to an extraordinary extent"

    becoming langley's "preeminent source on al qaeda"

    By the way, what are you leaving out in this quote here? "waterboarding... elicited a lot of information"
    Is that ... the word "didn't"?
    LOL!

    the full quote (from the ig report released by doj, aug, 2009) has been posted more than twenty times in this thread

    america is grateful the anti terror techniques of cheney---including gitmo, detention and the patriot act---were NOT dismantled by the neophyte occupant of today's white house, thus allowing this heroic GET to go down

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