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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He isn't a serious.
    who is?

    a serious, that is?

    eric holder?

    at least HE doesn't link to sydney, australia on behalf of teachers in new york

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanten Janubi View Post
    You should know better than most that actual 'terror strikes' won't be named. Why don't you? You should know that the intelligence community doesn't speak about anything, period. It's failures are brought up by the press but it's successes are brought up by no one. You should know this, and I think you do. You're just forgetting it to score a political point. That sucks.
    But that's not true. They DO speak about stuff! Look at the so called "second wave" attacks. Cheney was screaming on and on about how those were prevented by torture. But it turned out to be false.

    Remember when Obama issued the EO against torture, and ordered interrogators to use the methods only that are in your army interrogation manual? After that, Cheney came out again and he said that the CIA memos that Obama is releasing are going to show torture worked. The memos were released. It didn't show anything. Janubi, you keep making these claims about how it's classified. The point is, it's not classified. People come out all the time and do this. You said that only failures come out. Not true. Look at Cheney!

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    But that's not true. They DO speak about stuff! Look at the so called "second wave" attacks. Cheney was screaming on and on about how those were prevented by torture. But it turned out to be false.

    Remember when Obama issued the EO against torture, and ordered interrogators to use the methods only that are in your army interrogation manual? After that, Cheney came out again and he said that the CIA memos that Obama is releasing are going to show torture worked. The memos were released. It didn't show anything. Janubi, you keep making these claims about how it's classified. The point is, it's not classified. People come out all the time and do this. You said that only failures come out. Not true. Look at Cheney!
    People ignore this a lot. They tried to show us (false) evidence but could only fool a few. Of course, some don't need much to be fooled as they don't ask for much.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by m4rgery View Post
    Omar Khadr, aged 15 at the time, is the son of an alleged al-Qaida leader in Canada. He killed a US soldier by throwing a grenade at him during a battle at a suspected al-Qaida base in Afghanistan. Khadr has spent nearly nine years in Cuba as a result.
    If that's why he's there, then there's no need whatsoever for him to ever see a trial.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    If that's why he's there, then there's no need whatsoever for him to ever see a trial.
    Wrong. Everyone deserves to see a trial. That's a stupid claim. Do you think that a serial murderer deserves a trial, or should we just throw them into some building and not let them enjoy the American ideals of "innocent until proven guilty"?

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Wrong. Everyone deserves to see a trial.
    Prisoners of War -never- get a trial.
    This guy was CLEARLY engagd in combat w/ US troops. Thus, he gets held as a combatant, and gets no trial.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Prisoners of War -never- get a trial.
    This guy was CLEARLY engagd in combat w/ US troops. Thus, he gets held as a combatant, and gets no trial.
    They do, however, get released when the war is over. We really ahven't had anything before that is a never ending war (terrorism). That's why it is better to use rules of war against nations you go to war with and not tactics.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    some don't need much to be fooled as they don't ask for much.
    eric holder fools easy, doesn't ask for much?

    LOL!

    good point, sydney

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    No I'm not flat wrong about anything. There is no evidence of enhanced interrogation methods providing actionable intelligence on anything. Zero. No evidence. Find me some.
    I already have and so has Prof.

    I don't care if you refuse to accept the truth.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Wrong. Everyone deserves to see a trial.
    You do realize that POW's covered by the GC do not have a right to a trial.

    You know that right?

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