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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    eric holder accepted the claim, sydney:

    "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"
    Again, you have not provided what I've asked for. Don't be so scared of me that you can't admit that there is no such evidence out there for us to see.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    plenty of evidence for ERIC HOLDER to see

    is he scared too?

    LOL!

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    plenty of evidence for ERIC HOLDER to see

    is he scared too?

    LOL!
    As i said in the other thread, I'm asking you. Present the evidence if you have or admit that there isn't any we have access to.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    you really expect THE CIA to provide YOU with details?

    LOL!

    that's astonishingly stupid, syd

    you're just gonna have to be satisfied with langley's unequivocal assertion that ksm became the "preeminent source"

    unless, of course, eric holder is LYING

    think much?

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    you really expect THE CIA to provide YOU with details?

    LOL!

    that's astonishingly stupid, syd

    you're just gonna have to be satisfied with langley's unequivocal assertion that ksm became the "preeminent source"

    unless, of course, eric holder is LYING

    think much?
    We got the details of the misinformation. Seriously, liars always use the excuse that we can't be trusted to know. Surely there is a way to show the effectiveness. I try not to rely simply on trust.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No corner. A broke clock is right twice a day, but we wouldn't say it effectively keeps the time. And I have never used the word never. It would be legally and morally wrong even if effective, but as it is overall not effective, that means it is also not smart to use it.

    For the record, I've listened to Limbaugh, and as a kid, I went to the Baptist church camps every summer.

    But, overall, it is effective in very specific and limited situations. So what's the argument?
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    liars always use the excuse that we can't be trusted to know
    absolutely

    that's why ERIC HOLDER published the report containing the assessment, "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"

    holder must be lying

    probably trying to make dick cheney LOOK GOOD

    LOL!

    think much?

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    absolutely

    that's why ERIC HOLDER published the report containing the assessment, "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"

    holder must be lying

    probably trying to make dick cheney LOOK GOOD

    LOL!

    think much?
    Keep dancing around it. I know that's the best you got. But I've asked for specifics. You know as well as I do that there have been no specifics offered. You can't match what've shown of the misinformation.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanten Janubi View Post
    But, overall, it is effective in very specific and limited situations. So what's the argument?
    Is it? Not saying never is not to say it is effective in any situation. We may have gotten something here and there, but that wouldn't make it effective anywhere. It would be a leap to conclude that it was. Instead, we'd need much more information and a very detailed study. That's why i point to existing litature on the subject, which has nearly always concluded that torture is not effective at gathering information.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's why i point to existing litature [LOL!] on the subject, which has nearly always concluded that torture is not effective at gathering information.
    ig report released by attorney general eric holder on the monday preceding aug 29, 2009: "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"

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