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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    LOL!

    not against holder's interest to confess that eit's transformed ksm into langley's preeminent source

    hey, with reasoning like that, who needs links (to sydney)

    boo!

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    not against holder's interest to confess that eit's transformed ksm into langley's preeminent source

    hey, with reasoning like that, who needs links (to sydney)

    boo!
    Then link what he gave. It should be easy. Why not just link what he gave.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    the ig report released by holder's doj on the monday preceding aug 29, 2009?

    LOL!

    where ya been?

    in sydney?

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    I think you backed yourself into a corner here, Boo. Like I said, it's okay to admit that waterboarding or even torture can or could be effective in very rare situations. You won't catch on fire, start listening to Limbaugh, or have to attend a Jesus Camp. It is, quite honestly, the most rational opinion to hold. And, in fact, you can still oppose it on strong moral grounds. But to say something is never, ever effective is as silly as saying something is 100% always effective: very likely, neither are true.
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanten Janubi View Post
    I think you backed yourself into a corner here, Boo. Like I said, it's okay to admit that waterboarding or even torture can or could be effective in very rare situations. You won't catch on fire, start listening to Limbaugh, or have to attend a Jesus Camp. It is, quite honestly, the most rational opinion to hold. And, in fact, you can still oppose it on strong moral grounds. But to say something is never, ever effective is as silly as saying something is 100% always effective: very likely, neither are true.
    No corner. A broke clock is right twice a day, but we wouldn't say it effectively keeps the time. And I have never used the word never. It would be legally and morally wrong even if effective, but as it is overall not effective, that means it is also not smart to use it.

    For the record, I've listened to Limbaugh, and as a kid, I went to the Baptist church camps every summer.


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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    it is overall not effective
    inspector general of the cia: "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"

    to which ERIC HOLDER signed off

    sorry, sydney

    relying on reasoning without the facts is like bringing knifes to gunfights

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    inspector general of the cia: "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"

    to which ERIC HOLDER signed off

    sorry, sydney

    relying on reasoning without the facts is like bringing knifes to gunfights
    Again, show some intel we got from it. Anything. Anything at all. That would be a start.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    LOL!

    you're still starting?

    the ig and the ag have CONCLUDED:

    "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    you're still starting?

    the ig and the ag have CONCLUDED:

    "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"
    So, you can't. Of course I knew you couldn't because nothing has been offered. I have shown you verifiable and known misinformation we got from EIT. I've shown that other claims by Cheney and others proved false. And yet, you just accept the claim, no questions. I understand. But, the fact is, yu have not provided what i asked for.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    LOL!

    eric holder accepted the claim, sydney:

    "waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information"

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