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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison | World news | The Guardian

    Here is the file with the fifteen year old boy that was a kidnap victim

    I'm not shocked that these people would "interrogate" children. People that supported in keeping this prison are sick and I hate that Obama is keeping it open. Yeah, lets keep open a prison were children were interrogated for being terrorist
    Is it impossible that a child could be a terrorist? And why is gitmo the worlds most cotroversial prison? What about Iranian Prisions where people are raped, beaten, tortured and murdered by Prision guards. I suggest you join Amnesty International and do some research if you think gitmo is bad. Gitmo is a country club compared to prisons in El Salvador.
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    This information was not learned through waterboarding, let's first make that clear.
    That's as far as I could get. Where do you lefties come up with this BS?

    Even Panetta admits EIT's gave us the info that led to OBL.

    The CIA interrogators confirm that KSM was not cooperating until he was waterboarded. After that he sang like a baby. Same thing with the other two.
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    That's as far as I could get. Where do you lefties come up with this BS?

    Even Panetta admits EIT's gave us the info that led to OBL.

    The CIA interrogators confirm that KSM was not cooperating until he was waterboarded. After that he sang like a baby. Same thing with the other two.
    please show us panetta's quote that you are referencing
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    please show us panetta's quote that you are referencing
    Please pay attention to current events.

    Yet another link dependent poster.
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Please pay attention to current events.

    Yet another link dependent poster.
    This might be i sign that you do not have a source for this...


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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This might be i sign that you do not have a source for this...
    We both know that you and Bubba wouldn't believe it even if Panetta said it to your faces.

    For the link dependent who don't pay attention to current events:

    Brian Williams: I’d like to ask you about the sourcing on the intel that ultimately led to this successful attack. Can you confirm that it was as a result of waterboarding that we learned what we needed to learn to go after Bin Laden?

    Leon Panetta: You know, Brian, in the intelligence business you work from a lot of sources of information, and that was true here. We had a multiple series of sources that provided information with regards to this situation. Clearly, some of it came from detainees and the interrogation of detainees, but we also had information from other sources as well. So it’s a little difficult to say it was due just to one source of information that we got.

    Williams: Turned around the other way, are you denying that waterboarding was in part among the tactics used to extract the intelligence that led to this successful mission?

    Panetta: No, I think some of the detainees clearly were — you know, they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of these detainees. But I’m also saying that the debate about whether we would have gotten the same information through other approaches I think is always going to be an open question.

    Williams: So, final point, one final time: enhanced interrogation techniques, which has always been kind of a handy euphemism in these post-9/11 years, that includes waterboarding.

    Panetta: That’s correct.

    If you’re determined to believe waterboarding had nothing to do with tracking down Bin Laden, don’t listen to Leon Panetta | The Daily Caller
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Please pay attention to current events.

    Yet another link dependent poster.
    so, you are unable to cite the statement you insist was made

    thanks for evidencing your posts are without credibility; that you think it is ok to make **** up
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so, you are unable to cite the statement you insist was made

    thanks for evidencing your posts are without credibility; that you think it is ok to make **** up
    See below. Pay attention to current events or do your own homework before asking someone to do it for you.

    Did you have someone else do your homework in school?
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Bubba, I'm still waiting for you to address article 4 and 5 of the GC.

    You shot your mouth off on that one as well without knowing WTF you were talking about.

    Did you think I forgot? That was right here in this very thread. Remember?
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Damn you are thick. If you refuse to read the ISG report why bother to talk about it?

    These two paragraphs are irrefutable and put the nail in your coffin whether you realize it or not.

    Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability—which was essentially destroyed in 1991—after sanctions
    were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized, but probably with a different mix of capabilities to that
    which previously existed. Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability—in an incremental fashion,
    irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks—but he intended to focus on ballistic
    missile and tactical chemical warfare (CW) capabilities.

    ISG uncovered Iraqi plans or designs for three long-range ballistic missiles with ranges from 400 to 1,000
    km and for a 1,000-km-range cruise missile, although none of these systems progressed to production and
    only one reportedly passed the design phase. ISG assesses that these plans demonstrate Saddam’s continuing
    desire—up to the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF)—for a long-range delivery capability
    .
    Reasons for going to war with Iraq: Iraq had WMD's.
    The report you are stating from the ISG was the Duelfer Report i believe. It was released in late September of 2004. It also states that "Saddam ended his nuclear program in 1991. ISG found no evidence of concerted efforts to restart the program, and Iraq’s ability to reconstitute a nuclear weapons program progressively decayed after 1991." Also "Iraq destroyed its chemical weapons stockpile in 1991, and only a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions were discovered by the ISG." Also it states "Saddam's regime abandoned its biological weapons program and its ambition to obtain advanced biological weapons in 1995. While it could have re-established an elementary BW program within weeks, ISG discovered no indications it was pursuing such a course." Also it states what you have been repeating and repeating over and over again. I get that..
    In March of 2005 the ISG released another report entitled Addenda. In the report it stated "any remaining chemical munitions in Iraq do not pose a militarily significant threat." Also "Iraq’s remaining chemical and biological physical infrastructure does not pose a proliferation concern".


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