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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    No they are not. The GC only covers those fighing under it's rules.
    So, this means, according to you, no law governs our behavior? We can do anything we want, absent any law? I'm sorry, that's just wrong.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    No they are not. The GC only covers those fighing under it's rules.
    We violated those rules. Don't neglect rendition, torture, extraterritorial legalities, etc. Ain't you on a roll?

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    We violated those rules. Don't neglect rendition, torture, extraterritorial legalities, etc. Ain't you on a roll?
    We did?

    Once their status was determined they are no longer protected by the GC.

    They fail to meet the "protected person" status spelled out in the GC.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    We did?

    Once their status was determined they are no longer protected by the GC.

    They fail to meet the "protected person" status spelled out in the GC.
    show us the GC language which excludes them
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

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    show us the GC language which excludes them
    So you admit you haven't read the GC or anything about it.
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    So you admit you haven't read the GC or anything about it.
    no. i want to expose that you will be unable to provide the language of the Geneva Conventions which excludes those individuals from being entitled to the provisions of the Geneva Conventions

    and from your inability to post such exclusionary language you have again proven me right ... and yourself wrong

    thank you for that, even tho it was not your intent
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no. i want to expose that you will be unable to provide the language of the Geneva Conventions which excludes those individuals from being entitled to the provisions of the Geneva Conventions

    and from your inability to post such exclusionary language you have again proven me right ... and yourself wrong

    thank you for that, even tho it was not your intent
    Yet another lefty unaware of what's in a document they keep referring to.

    Thank you for that admission.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Yet another lefty unaware of what's in a document they keep referring to.

    Thank you for that admission.
    Than provide it. It's not that hard.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Yet another lefty unaware of what's in a document they keep referring to.

    Thank you for that admission.
    you are the one who has insisted the Geneva Conventions do not apply to those imprisoned at guantanamo
    and you have been asked to provide the language of the GC which excludes those prisoners from the provisions of the GC - to document your position has a valid premise
    you have been unable/unwilling to do so

    but let me offer you a second chance, so that you are not recognized as cowardly slinking away from the challenge to prove your assertion

    and to help you, here is a cite
    Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions - New York Times
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    cowardly slinking ..... I'll let this go as you're obviously just another dime-a-dozen lefty who hasn't read the GC.


    Read it and weep lefties. You can read article 4 as to who is covered and who isn't for yourself. It's too long to post. Terrorists are not covered.

    Article 5
    The present Convention shall apply to the
    persons referred to in Article 4 from the
    time they fall into the power of the enemy
    and until their final release and repatriation.
    Should any doubt arise as to whether
    persons, having committed a belligerent act
    and having fallen into the hands of the
    enemy, belong to any of the categories
    enumerated in Article 4, such persons shall
    enjoy the protection of the present
    Convention until such time as their status
    has been determined by a competent
    tribunal
    .
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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