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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    he also said he'd close gitmo

    and try ksm downtown

    he said...

    LOL!

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Then show he's telling folks to torture.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    telling folks to torture---LOL!

    meanwhile, today:

    President Barack Obama’s nominations of Leon Panetta as defense secretary and Gen. David Petraeus as director of central intelligence demonstrate that the president has abandoned his pledge to change U.S. foreign policy. In fact, these nominations show that Washington has changed Obama far more than he has changed Washington.

    Obama long insisted that he wants to reorient America’s focus — moving it away from nation-building projects in the Islamic world and toward Asia. He also insists he wants to trim military spending. But if Petraeus heads CIA and Panetta becomes defense secretary, it’s unlikely either will happen.
    How Washington changed Obama - POLITICO.com

    can it be denied?
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no, the Constitution does not enforce anything
    yes, treaties may contain anything
    but the treaties which bind us will only contain the language authorized by the US government
    which means the geneva conventions "shall be the supreme law of the land"
    the Constitution says so
    if you refuse to believe it, read it below



    i have become tired of responding to your nonsensical posts
    don't expect further reply
    What a condescending, out-right rude reply. We disagree on semantics and you decide to behave like that? Not impressed.
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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Would torture fall under cruel and unusual punishment? Oh i forgot that does not apply to them?

    Whatever happened to the "US does not torture"?
    Once again you're ignoring the obvious point that non-American terrorists captured on a foreign battlefield do not have US constitutional rights.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Once again you're ignoring the obvious point that non-American terrorists captured on a foreign battlefield do not have US constitutional rights.
    Don't have to have. We're the ones ho have to follow the law.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    obama's a LAW BREAKER

    he uses the patriot act, detention, rendition, he leaves gitmo standing there

    and he refuses to prosecute torturers

    my, my...

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Where in the constitution does it say we can torture anyone? US law says we can't torture. It does not say we cannot torture citzens. It does not say we can torture non citizens. In fact, in the past we did prosecute US soliders for waterboarding. It is the act that is illegal, and not who we do it to.
    The thing it is, they are treated decently, Boo Boo.... they have shelter, are fed, and are allowed to practice their religion. The ones living in cages are the hard cases, and this type of incarceration is no different then solitary confinement in US prisons. Are they interrogated and pressed for information? Of course they are, and that's the point of contention here. Personally, I have no problems with enemy combatant being interrogated.

    I think the question on your mind might be: are we sure they ARE enemy combatants? and just HOW did we make sure they are?

    Is it possible for someone like me to become more flexible?

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Then show he's telling folks to torture.
    Were not arguing that Obama is going to close Gitmo buddy.
    This is not a repub/dem issue we are arguing about Gitmo not how the parties plan and what they do with gitmo


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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Once again you're ignoring the obvious point that non-American terrorists captured on a foreign battlefield do not have US constitutional rights.

    Yes the do sir.


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