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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

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    what's an ethnic square?
    a home made meal...so to speak.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You're a socialist, you're not for anything America ever stood for.
    Jesus H Christ.........
    Ignorance pure ****ing ignorance.


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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    my understanding is that all who are within the USA or its territories are subject to the Constitution and the federal law which followed it, excepting only those diplomats who are here in a capacity to represent their own nations, such as embassy personnel and those foreign members/staff of the UN

    would you please point the provision of the Constitution/federal law which stipulates that the laws of our nation do not flow to non-citizens
    They apply, until they get kicked out of the country. Then, who knows? Citizens cannot be kicked out thereby losing constitutional protection. They also don't get to vote.


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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    They apply, until they get kicked out of the country. Then, who knows? Citizens cannot be kicked out thereby losing constitutional protection. They also don't get to vote.


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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    'The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God' JFK
    And if we believe that, if that is truely a value of ours, we should not even be having this conversation.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Jesus H Christ.........
    Ignorance pure ****ing ignorance.
    Whats the H stand fer??

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Whats the H stand fer??
    Harry son, Harry that's whatta I ama sayin see, so stop a bumpin them there gums and say Harry for Christ sakes.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It doesn't ahve to. It extends to us and how we behave. We fall under rule of law. It isn't just a ruloe for tose captured, but a rule on how we behave. Our behavior isn't just thrown out the window. We fall under laws. We broke all kinds of laws when we tortured, when we held people without any due process for years, when we tried to get away with having no process.

    And it must be stated, everyone we have held, tortured and hold are not the bad guys. Because we ignored rule of law, we did bad things to nnocent people. And this is who rule of law is intended to protect, the innocent.
    I blame Bush for whats happening in Gitmo (cross my finger)...Tough on some issues and ****ing wimp on others

    Heres the real deal...

    Terrorism is not a ****ing crime. It is a tactic used in war by insurgents who are already at war, even though the target may not know it.

    By their very nature, terrorist cannot be defeated by waiting for the events to occur or arresting suspected terrorists for conspiracy or some such. Once the event occurs, the terrorist insurgent has already one - punishment is irrelevant.

    Putting hard core terrorists in jail accomplishes nothing aka jackdhit There is no deterrent factor and they win by being allowed to speak at trial.

    For the true believer there is only one solution - shoot him in the face while he's putting the battery in the cell phone - or before.

    Arresting and detaining these people accomplishes NOTHING. Period

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I blame Bush for whats happening in Gitmo (cross my finger)...Tough on some issues and ****ing wimp on others

    Heres the real deal...

    Terrorism is not a ****ing crime. It is a tactic used in war by insurgents who are already at war, even though the target may not know it.

    By their very nature, terrorist cannot be defeated by waiting for the events to occur or arresting suspected terrorists for conspiracy or some such. Once the event occurs, the terrorist insurgent has already one - punishment is irrelevant.

    Putting hard core terrorists in jail accomplishes nothing aka jackdhit There is no deterrent factor and they win by being allowed to speak at trial.

    For the true believer there is only one solution - shoot him in the face while he's putting the battery in the cell phone - or before.

    Arresting and detaining these people accomplishes NOTHING. Period
    There is likely no deterrent. But that is besides the point. This is about our behavior.

    Also, terrorism is a crime against all people. Yes, it is a tactic, a criminal tactic. And I have no problem treating them as prisoners of war. But follow that law if that is how you see it. Also remember, this is a war that has no real end. So, until a conventional war, you can't say you will hold people until the end of the war. There is no end. It is one thing to mistakenly hold an innocent person for a few years in a humane way, and another to hold an innocent person for life. Add torture to the innocent person, and we become crminal.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I blame Bush for whats happening in Gitmo (cross my finger)...Tough on some issues and ****ing wimp on others

    Heres the real deal...

    Terrorism is not a ****ing crime. It is a tactic used in war by insurgents who are already at war, even though the target may not know it.

    By their very nature, terrorist cannot be defeated by waiting for the events to occur or arresting suspected terrorists for conspiracy or some such. Once the event occurs, the terrorist insurgent has already one - punishment is irrelevant.

    Putting hard core terrorists in jail accomplishes nothing aka jackdhit There is no deterrent factor and they win by being allowed to speak at trial.

    For the true believer there is only one solution - shoot him in the face while he's putting the battery in the cell phone - or before.

    Arresting and detaining these people accomplishes NOTHING. Period


    For the true believer there is only one solution - shoot him in the face while he's putting the battery in the cell phone - or before.

    Arresting and detaining these people accomplishes NOTHING. Period
    This just about the only solution.

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