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Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

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It looks like this Alaska police officer was a cop under a stolen identity. He was an illegal immigrant. To me, that makes every one of his arrests null and void and all that he arrested should go free immediately as he was no more a cop than I am. And non-cops, particularly non-citizens, i.e. illegal immigrants, can't arrest and charge people with crimes.

Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska - FoxNews.com
 
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It doesn't make any sense to release the people he arrested since they are criminals. The article says he was widely respected. If his record is clean, I think he should be allowed to apply for citizenship.
 
Because they were arrested by someone who wasn't a cop. It's the same idea as if they were sentenced by someone who wasn't a judge.

That's not how our laws are done here. Proper protocol was not taken. Therefore, they should all be released immediately.
 
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It doesn't make any sense to release the people he arrested since they are criminals. The article says he was widely respected. If his record is clean, I think he should be allowed to apply for citizenship.

Yes reward the criminal behavior......thats the liberal spirit!
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Because they were arrested by someone who wasn't a cop. It's the same idea as if they were sentenced by someone who wasn't a judge.

That's not how our laws are done here. Proper protocol was not taken. Therefore, they should all be released immediately.

I understand that. But 1) Releasing criminals puts society at risk. 2) He was technically a cop and it doesn't seem like the police department thinks his arrests will be overturned, so I'm inclined to believe that overturning decisions isn't as automatic as you make it out to be.
 
It looks like this Alaska police officer was a cop under a stolen identity. He was an illegal immigrant. To me, that makes every one of his arrests null and void and all that he arrested should go free immediately as he was no more a cop than I am. And non-cops, particularly non-citizens, i.e. illegal immigrants, can't arrest and charge people with crimes.

Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska - FoxNews.com

It is possible that felons convicted due to his testimony will have the right to appeal based on this new development. As to his arrests being null and void? You don't have to be a police officer to arrest someone. Quite a background check they must run on police officer candidates. Idiots.

I don't agree that any wheels ought to be greased to give him citizenship. In fact, he should be prosecuted for stealing someone's identity.
 
You think in simplistic terms....that's the uneducated spirit!

Is it a crime to enter this country illegaly.....?

........then why reward rather than punish the action?

Simplistic and common sense dont apply to Democrat contentions.......
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I don't agree that any wheels ought to be greased to give him citizenship. In fact, he should be prosecuted for stealing someone's identity.

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Because they were arrested by someone who wasn't a cop. It's the same idea as if they were sentenced by someone who wasn't a judge.

That's not how our laws are done here. Proper protocol was not taken. Therefore, they should all be released immediately.

His arrests should be reviewed, I'm sure most if not everything he did was proper, besides stealing an identity obviously, but as you point out he wasn't eligible to be a police officer anyway. However being eligible and capable aren't always the same thing, and there's no reason to not review his arrests and therefore avoid the risk of releasing a criminal who shouldn't be released, especially since if you just let them go and drop the sentence you can't charge him later for the same crime if its obvious he was guilty. Besides like you say, the Judge was a citizen and his verdicts shouldn't be contested since the police officer's citizenship isn't relevant to the evidence and trial which convicted those people.
 
His arrests should be reviewed, I'm sure most if not everything he did was proper, besides stealing an identity obviously,

Yes of course......considering his first action upon entering this country was breaking our laws.....

......we should give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his enforcement of our laws.......

A criminal arresting criminals........what could go wrong?
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It is possible that felons convicted due to his testimony will have the right to appeal based on this new development. As to his arrests being null and void? You don't have to be a police officer to arrest someone. Quite a background check they must run on police officer candidates. Idiots.

I don't agree that any wheels ought to be greased to give him citizenship. In fact, he should be prosecuted for stealing someone's identity.

No, but you DO have to be a legal citizen. You can't be an illegal alien and arrest anyone. Also, any arrests made by someone who is impersonating an officer are null and void as well. So, like I said, all of the arrests should be null and void. It doesn't matter the outcome of the case criminal court, the arrest and charge was invalid thus so is the case.
 
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No, but you DO have to be a legal citizen. You can't be an illegal alien and arrest anyone. So, like I said, all of the arrests should be null and void. It doesn't matter the outcome of the case criminal court, the arrest and charge was invalid thus so is the case.

there will be a LONG list of lawsuits pointing this out.
 
so, only the lawbreakers YOU think should be punished... should be punished, eh?

where did I say that the officer shouldn't be punished? show me.
 
Yes reward the criminal behavior......thats the liberal spirit!
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Liberal spirit? Conservative spirit? It all depends on the criminals, and who they support. Liberals would support an illegal alien. Conservatives would support Ken Lay. It's all about perspective. But, honestly, I am not going to stand by what I just posted, since putting labels on everybody and everything shows only partisan hackery, and little, if any, knowledge of reality.
 
It doesn't make any sense to release the people he arrested since they are criminals. The article says he was widely respected. If his record is clean, I think he should be allowed to apply for citizenship.

What!!!!!!!!!!!! he committed several crimes...hes here illegal thats one...falsifying his identity..and identification paper..drivers license, Social Security etc...hes committed fraud and a multitude of other crimes...put his arse in jail and then deport him.
 
The way I see it, the man was a police officer. He was trained, sworn in, and worked that job (apparently) in good faith. Obviously he got the job under false pretenses and should be immediately fired, benefits pulled, etc, and appropriate charges filed against him.

However, I would argue in the inevitable appeals that because he performed his duties in good faith as a sworn officer of the law and followed police procedures, the people he arrested are not entitled to automatic release. (although obviously there's going to be investigation on those arrests to make sure there was no improper actions taken)

That said, I have no idea what the law or court precedents say about a situation like this, because I don't think I've heard of a case like this happening before.
 
What!!!!!!!!!!!! he committed several crimes...hes here illegal thats one...falsifying his identity..and identification paper..drivers license, Social Security etc...hes committed fraud and a multitude of other crimes...put his arse in jail and then deport him.

You forgot that he was well-respected, well-liked police officer who put criminals behind bars and while here, had a positive impact on American society. He should be tried and be allowed to apply for citizenship. He's been here since the 1980s - I look at the man more than the crime.
 
Liberal spirit? Conservative spirit? It all depends on the criminals, and who they support. Liberals would support an illegal alien. Conservatives would support Ken Lay. It's all about perspective. But, honestly, I am not going to stand by what I just posted, since putting labels on everybody and everything shows only partisan hackery, and little, if any, knowledge of reality.

Perspective.......

Your comparing one man to 11-20 million criminals/Future Democrat Voters..........
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You forgot that he was well-respected, well-liked police officer who put criminals behind bars and while here, had a positive impact on American society. He should be tried and be allowed to apply for citizenship. He's been here since the 1980s - I look at the man more than the crime.

......20 million Illegal Immigrants later......its apparent Democrats never look at the crime do they?
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......20 million Illegal Immigrants later......its apparent Democrats never look at the crime do they?
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......You don't know..... anything about .....Democrats.
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The way I see it, the man was a police officer. He was trained, sworn in, and worked that job (apparently) in good faith. Obviously he got the job under false pretenses and should be immediately fired, benefits pulled, etc, and appropriate charges filed against him.

However, I would argue in the inevitable appeals that because he performed his duties in good faith as a sworn officer of the law and followed police procedures, the people he arrested are not entitled to automatic release. (although obviously there's going to be investigation on those arrests to make sure there was no improper actions taken)

That said, I have no idea what the law or court precedents say about a situation like this, because I don't think I've heard of a case like this happening before.

With all due respect, I don't think you're grasping the significance of this. You're hanging on to "he was sworn in, he was a good cop, etc etc."

None of that matters. Just like if it were ever to be proven that Obama was not eligible to be president, it doesn't matter if he was the best president in history, everything he did while president would be immediately null and void. All bills he signed, all laws, everything. It would be like he was never president.

It's the same thing with this cop. I don't give a damn if he was sworn in and made USA cop of the year. He was not eligible to be a police officer. He was not eligible to make arrests. Every arrest he made should be immediately voided. YOU CAN'T BE ARRESTED BY AN ILLEGAL ALIEN, I DON'T CARE WHAT UNIFORM HE IS IN!! You can't say "well he was a good cop so we'll just fire him." There are people in jail right now who were arrested by a cop who wasn't a real cop and wasn't eligible to be one. That is HUGE. I can promise you tons of lawsuits are going to be immediately filed.

If he was sworn in under false pretenses, then his swearing in was basically "junk." It wasn't worth the time to listen to it. At the time, nobody but he knew. But that doesn't make it "ok."

You obviously don't understand how our laws in this nation work. To be sent to prison/jail, you MUST have charges filed against you, and every law along the way must be followed to the letter, else the guy walks. Whether he did it or not, whether he was found guilty, it all starts with an arrest. If that arrest is false, that's like pulling the foundation out from under the house, the entire case falls apart immediately. That's how it should be with everyone he ever arrested. And, everyone who was ever arrested by him should be able to sue him for tons of reasons and get tons of money out of him. Can't get blood out of a turnip? Cool, but make damn sure that every penny he ever earns in the USA goes to the people that he falsely arrested and put in jail.
 
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Link to the appropriate laws and legal precedents, then.
 
I understand that. But 1) Releasing criminals puts society at risk. 2) He was technically a cop and it doesn't seem like the police department thinks his arrests will be overturned, so I'm inclined to believe that overturning decisions isn't as automatic as you make it out to be.

UHHHHH..... Excuse me, but he is a criminal himself, not only is he in this country illegally, he was using a false/stolen ID.
He should rot in prison.
Anyone who was arrested by him should be freed, as any testimony from him can not be treated as truth. :2mad:
 
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