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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Exactly, which is why in a court of law he would be tried with identity theft. Although people are more than their crimes there which is why, as I said earlier, murders of passion are tried different from premeditated murders.


    Oh, so you agree then that people are more than their crimes.


    I'm arguing he should be tried for identity theft and then given a path to citizenship after he serves his time.
    Sigh...When he's tried and found guilty of identity theft (felony), he won't be able to become a citizen.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

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    Sigh...When he's tried and found guilty of identity theft (felony), he won't be able to become a citizen.
    And he should be able, just like this woman should be:
    Ekaterine Bautista, Iraq War Veteran, May Be Denied Citizenship

    He should be tried for identity theft and then given a path to citizenship.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

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    And he should be able, just like this woman should be:
    Ekaterine Bautista, Iraq War Veteran, May Be Denied Citizenship

    He should be tried for identity theft and then given a path to citizenship.
    I don't have a problem with a path to citizenship. If and when we set up that program, if it's tied to military service alone (not police and post etc.) I'll be all for it. But it's not about what these people did right; it's about what they did wrong. If you have to rob a bank to fund your charity, you're doing it wrong. So are these people. You may not like the process by which immigrants become citizens, but I'm not necessarily concerned with what you like and neither is the federal government.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

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    I don't have a problem with a path to citizenship. If and when we set up that program, if it's tied to military service alone (not police and post etc.) I'll be all for it. But it's not about what these people did right; it's about what they did wrong. If you have to rob a bank to fund your charity, you're doing it wrong. So are these people. You may not like the process by which immigrants become citizens, but I'm not necessarily concerned with what you like and neither is the federal government.
    This isn't about what I like or what your ego is concerned with. It's about what these people did wrong either. It's about the totality of their rights and wrongs, the totality of who they are. I consider the whole person, you're focused on the parts you don't like.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    There already is a path to citizenship.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There already is a path to citizenship.
    I mean, they shouldn't be deported first.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    This isn't about what I like or what your ego is concerned with. It's about what these people did wrong either. It's about the totality of their rights and wrongs, the totality of who they are. I consider the whole person, you're focused on the parts you don't like.
    Yes and they happen to be illegal. (Are you kidding me with this? I mean, this is shtick, right?) You consider the whole person, huh? Well, in both cases the whole person is a felon. To quote the great Walter Sobchak, "This is not 'Nam . . . there are rules."

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I mean, they shouldn't be deported first.
    So they should be jailed. Ok, I'm with you on that one.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by Hand View Post
    Yes and they happen to be illegal. (Are you kidding me with this? I mean, this is shtick, right?) You consider the whole person, huh? Well, in both cases the whole person is a felon. To quote the great Walter Sobchak, "This is not 'Nam . . . there are rules."
    The whole person is not a felon. That doesn't even make any sense. At all.

    By your logic, the "whole person" of a murderer is a felon. Unfortunately, courts treat murders of passion differently from the premeditated sort. You haven't made one reality based comment in this thread.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    And he should be able, just like this woman should be:
    Ekaterine Bautista, Iraq War Veteran, May Be Denied Citizenship

    He should be tried for identity theft and then given a path to citizenship.
    Yes.. let's reward his initial law breaking by giving him a path to citizenship .

    **** it.. let's just make everyone who asks a citizen, no questions asked!

    Break the law coming in? No problem... here's yer path to citizenship. Let your green card expire 12 years ago? No worries mate... here ya go, just sign here and yer in!

    What? You followed all the rules, did everything that was asked of you? Sorry, you'll have to wait at the end of the line to come into the country... you see, we have a few people (see examples above) ahead of you.

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