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Thread: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You forgot that he was well-respected, well-liked police officer who put criminals behind bars and while here, had a positive impact on American society. He should be tried and be allowed to apply for citizenship. He's been here since the 1980s - I look at the man more than the crime.
    ......20 million Illegal Immigrants later......its apparent Democrats never look at the crime do they?
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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    ......20 million Illegal Immigrants later......its apparent Democrats never look at the crime do they?
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    ......You don't know..... anything about .....Democrats.
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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The way I see it, the man was a police officer. He was trained, sworn in, and worked that job (apparently) in good faith. Obviously he got the job under false pretenses and should be immediately fired, benefits pulled, etc, and appropriate charges filed against him.

    However, I would argue in the inevitable appeals that because he performed his duties in good faith as a sworn officer of the law and followed police procedures, the people he arrested are not entitled to automatic release. (although obviously there's going to be investigation on those arrests to make sure there was no improper actions taken)

    That said, I have no idea what the law or court precedents say about a situation like this, because I don't think I've heard of a case like this happening before.
    With all due respect, I don't think you're grasping the significance of this. You're hanging on to "he was sworn in, he was a good cop, etc etc."

    None of that matters. Just like if it were ever to be proven that Obama was not eligible to be president, it doesn't matter if he was the best president in history, everything he did while president would be immediately null and void. All bills he signed, all laws, everything. It would be like he was never president.

    It's the same thing with this cop. I don't give a damn if he was sworn in and made USA cop of the year. He was not eligible to be a police officer. He was not eligible to make arrests. Every arrest he made should be immediately voided. YOU CAN'T BE ARRESTED BY AN ILLEGAL ALIEN, I DON'T CARE WHAT UNIFORM HE IS IN!! You can't say "well he was a good cop so we'll just fire him." There are people in jail right now who were arrested by a cop who wasn't a real cop and wasn't eligible to be one. That is HUGE. I can promise you tons of lawsuits are going to be immediately filed.

    If he was sworn in under false pretenses, then his swearing in was basically "junk." It wasn't worth the time to listen to it. At the time, nobody but he knew. But that doesn't make it "ok."

    You obviously don't understand how our laws in this nation work. To be sent to prison/jail, you MUST have charges filed against you, and every law along the way must be followed to the letter, else the guy walks. Whether he did it or not, whether he was found guilty, it all starts with an arrest. If that arrest is false, that's like pulling the foundation out from under the house, the entire case falls apart immediately. That's how it should be with everyone he ever arrested. And, everyone who was ever arrested by him should be able to sue him for tons of reasons and get tons of money out of him. Can't get blood out of a turnip? Cool, but make damn sure that every penny he ever earns in the USA goes to the people that he falsely arrested and put in jail.
    Last edited by dontworrybehappy; 04-24-11 at 12:04 PM.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Link to the appropriate laws and legal precedents, then.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I understand that. But 1) Releasing criminals puts society at risk. 2) He was technically a cop and it doesn't seem like the police department thinks his arrests will be overturned, so I'm inclined to believe that overturning decisions isn't as automatic as you make it out to be.
    UHHHHH..... Excuse me, but he is a criminal himself, not only is he in this country illegally, he was using a false/stolen ID.
    He should rot in prison.
    Anyone who was arrested by him should be freed, as any testimony from him can not be treated as truth.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It doesn't make any sense to release the people he arrested since they are criminals. The article says he was widely respected. If his record is clean, I think he should be allowed to apply for citizenship.
    You deserve an e bitch slap for that statement.
    How can you possibly condone this person's actions?

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    where did I say that the officer shouldn't be punished? show me.
    "It doesn't make any sense to release the people he arrested since they are criminals. The article says he was widely respected. If his record is clean, I think he should be allowed to apply for citizenship."
    "If his record is clean?
    How that is possible if he is here illegally & using stolen ID?
    Please explain.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Something good will come out of this..like imposing stronger background checks on its police department across the nation

    It will be very difficult to pull this **** again

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Link to the appropriate laws and legal precedents, then.
    Sure.

    Citizen's arrest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/1120387

    American citizens do not carry the authority or enjoy the legal protections held by police officers, and are held to the principle of strict liability before the courts of civil- and criminal law including, but not limited to, any infringement of another's rights.
    Considering he was not a cop as he was not eligible to be one, he is held to strict liability before the courts in civil and criminal law. There you go.

    In order to make a citizens arrest, you must be a CITIZEN. An illegal alien, by definition, is NOT a legal American citizen. Thus he can't arrest anyone.
    Last edited by dontworrybehappy; 04-24-11 at 05:10 PM.

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    Re: Officials: Illegal Immigrant Became a Cop in Alaska

    I knew it. This came from Fox "News"

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