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    McCain pushes heavier U.S. involvement in Libya(edited)

    McCain pushes heavier U.S. involvement in Libya - CNN.com

    So John McCain went to Libya, and not only supports what we are doing, but thinks we should be doing more.

    Now, I don't like our involvement there. I'm disappointed with Obama's actions in Libya.

    I find it interesting that no matter who had won the Presidential election in 2008, our involvement in Libya would not have changed. I'm interested to hear from those who would have preferred a different outcome to the election and have been critical of Obama on this issue. Are you disappointed that McCain's policy would have been pretty close to Obamas?
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    Re: McCain in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    McCain pushes heavier U.S. involvement in Libya - CNN.com

    So John McCain went to Libya, and not only supports what we are doing, but thinks we should be doing more.

    Now, I don't like our involvement there. I'm disappointed with Obama's actions in Libya.

    I find it interesting that no matter who had won the Presidential election in 2008, our involvement in Libya would not have changed. I'm interested to hear from those who would have preferred a different outcome to the election and have been critical of Obama on this issue. Are you disappointed that McCain's policy would have been pretty close to Obamas?
    I think it's funny that Michelle Bachmann and other Teabaggers are criticizing Obama for supporting the Libyan rebels because some of them may come from Muslim extremist groups and so may come to power after the rebellion but now I wonder if they will criticize McCain for giving his support for the rebels as well.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: McCain in Libya

    Seems like a chump move for political manuvering in Washington.

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    Re: McCain in Libya

    Thank goodness he is not president. Not sure we have seen a war he did not want us to fight.

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    Re: McCain in Libya

    I would love to buy the story McCain is selling. I would love to be on the side of the underdog good guys against the terrible tyrant.

    I don't trust our govt enough to take their word on it. I am too ignorant of the situation. And I am not sure what the implications of doing so would be. As I have said elsewhere I don't mind a humanitarian effort for the non-combatants. I think that would be an investment of good will that would provide a nice ROI in the long-term.
    But the part where we become responsible for killing people when we have a choice not to needs more justifying still, imho.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: McCain in Libya

    I oppose additional involvement. The U.S. should throw its support behind a verifiable ceasefire that protects the lives of civilians. It should not be engaging in regime change in a situation where it has no critical interests at stake.

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    Re: McCain in Libya

    My question to McCain is...Where do we get the right to intervene? Just because you freakin say, we can? Being the world's policeman, especially when we have such urgent economic powers of our own is being two-faced, hypocritical and inconsistent

    We can't even wipe our own asses on our own in good old America

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    Re: McCain pushes heavier U.S. involvement in Libya(edited)

    Looks like I'm the only one who favors more assistance for the Libyans. I don't see why we can't aid the Libyans. It doesn't mean that we have to put a ground force in Libya, everything can be done from the air. Use some Apache attack helicopters and A-10 Thunderbolts and coordinate with the rebels' ground forces, that would do the trick. We have a huge trillion dollar military, seems like we should make good use of it and further our mutual interests abroad. The more democratic and friendly governments there are around the world, the better it is for the US, especially in the Middle East. Dictatorships generally have a lot of staying power, they won't go anywhere unless dislodged by an outside power. If our military is only for defending the US if attacked, then we should disband pretty much the whole military and rely strictly on the nukes for deterrence, doesn't make much sense to spend money to keep the units that we have.

    Also, if you question being in Libya, you should also question why we are in Afghanistan where we have a ground force that is fighting and dying with not much appreciable gain in the long run. And finally, our own revolution might not have been successful if the French hadn't came to our aid with their Navy.

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    Re: McCain pushes heavier U.S. involvement in Libya(edited)

    Giving the rebels weapons could bite us in the ass in the long run. However, giving them radios and training to direct airstrikes would be useful and has limited potential for abuse.

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    Re: McCain pushes heavier U.S. involvement in Libya(edited)

    Well I am already disappointed we sent more drones in there. I watched McCain's speech to the Libyan rebels. I think it is an incredibly bad idea. I also watched an interview that Tom Brokaw did with one of the Saudi's sons and the Saudi had a point, we have no real plan, us nor NATO forces. We just need to leave there completely. If we stay, we need to withdraw more from Iraqi and Afghanistan, and not once should we be putting ground troops in Libya.
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