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    Re: Former U.N. Nuclear Weapons Inspector: "GW Bush should face criminal investigati

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    We are a soverign country. We don't bow to America hating world opinion. Well, at least we didn't use to...With the liar n chief in office now who knows.....


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    Sorry... but... what is that? What kind of response is that? It adds nothing to the dialog.

    Yes, we are sovereign... as is Libya. We want our sovereignty protected. Wouldn't cotton much to France coming over and deciding it wants any of our natural resources. Sure, they couldn't do it now... but they could have easily sat back and watched the Brits and colonists wipe each other out then come in and clean up... Point is... precedent, morals, honor, rule of law, ethics... these things are what makes America great, not the size or capability of it's military.

    America was beloved the world over for nearly 200 years.. now the term "America hating" is in common use... you have to ask yourself, honestly... why?

    Because we have had liars in chief of all stripes over the last century, we have attempted to shape the world to our vision... eventually that's going to piss off the rest of the world as it strives to achieve American standards of living.

    The ignorant, puffed chest tough guy blustering was cute a decade ago.. now it's past passe and now nearing dangerous proportions. Here is the problem, and your problem... Party before country rhetoric that vilifies your fellow countrymen to advance an agenda. Politics isn't football, it's not a team sport... and if it were, the ONLY patriotic definition of teams should forever be, We the People vs Government. Period.

    Before you go on too much about liars, you should do some reading about the entire political history of the neocon players. All 40 years of it.

    This post has some good starting points for you... http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059431838

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    Re: Former U.N. Nuclear Weapons Inspector: "GW Bush should face criminal investigati

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post

    I think right after the prosecute Bush and his team, they do the same to Obama.
    For what? What has he done that would warrant being investigated for war crimes?

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    Re: Former U.N. Nuclear Weapons Inspector: "GW Bush should face criminal investigati

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    Sorry... but... what is that? What kind of response is that? It adds nothing to the dialog.

    Yes, we are sovereign... as is Libya. We want our sovereignty protected. Wouldn't cotton much to France coming over and deciding it wants any of our natural resources. Sure, they couldn't do it now... but they could have easily sat back and watched the Brits and colonists wipe each other out then come in and clean up... Point is... precedent, morals, honor, rule of law, ethics... these things are what makes America great, not the size or capability of it's military.

    America was beloved the world over for nearly 200 years.. now the term "America hating" is in common use... you have to ask yourself, honestly... why?

    Because we have had liars in chief of all stripes over the last century, we have attempted to shape the world to our vision... eventually that's going to piss off the rest of the world as it strives to achieve American standards of living.

    The ignorant, puffed chest tough guy blustering was cute a decade ago.. now it's past passe and now nearing dangerous proportions. Here is the problem, and your problem... Party before country rhetoric that vilifies your fellow countrymen to advance an agenda. Politics isn't football, it's not a team sport... and if it were, the ONLY patriotic definition of teams should forever be, We the People vs Government. Period.

    Before you go on too much about liars, you should do some reading about the entire political history of the neocon players. All 40 years of it.

    This post has some good starting points for you... http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059431838
    Ok, I don't disagree with everything you posted here. We have certianly had our own problems, and Party's are quickly revealing themselves equally faulty. On that we agree. But if you are making the case that we should just be the open checkbook, and force that the rest of the world calls on when they need help, then when that help is done they go back to demonizing us, and being despots then we disagree.

    See this reminds me of that answer Obama gave when asked about American Exceptionalism, and his answer was that we are exceptional just like the French believe in French exceptionalism, and the Greeks in Greek exceptionalism....etc.

    Very weak man.

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    Re: Former U.N. Nuclear Weapons Inspector: "GW Bush should face criminal investigati

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    They also for get that Saddam himself said before he was hung that he felt he had too mislead the World about him having WMDs to keep Iran from another invasion.
    That right there is enough to warrant an investigation. Saddam essentially told the world on his death bed that he lied about the significance of his weapons program in order to deter invasion from a neighbor enemy, Iran. So, if the evidence before the Iraq War clearly indicated there was no weapons of the caliber Sec. of State Powell warned the world about before the U.N. Security Counsel and here it is every independent investigation into the matter verified the Saddam was telling the truth which he reiterated before he was put to death, does that not point to wrong-doing on the part of the former President even when he himself also admitted they never found they type and caliber of weapons they were looking for?

    Now I have made it very clear that I believe Obama if a worthless lying fool, and I have called for him to be charged for violating his oath of off as it relates to Article 4 Sec. 4 of the Constitution...
    Exactly how so? And for those who don't know what Art 4, Sect 4 says:

    Section 4 - Republican government

    The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
    You'd have to point to specifics where any State has been denied the ability to form or retain a representative government by the federal government and has not been provided equal protect by the same. Unless you misquoted the wrong article, I don't see that any of this has happened in this country. Egypt, Syria, Lybia, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia...definitely. But not here in the U.S.

    Try again...
    But what I wish for now is that people stop trying to change facts. In this case I have to assume the only reason we never heard from this author on this before was book sales.

    You can read about Saddam Bluffing about WMDs here from CNN:CNN.com - Transcripts
    A-typical...deny facts and turn the issue against the messenger and label him a fame whore just because he wrote about that tells the truth on the matter. Look, all you have to do is search the Web for Iraq WNDs and read every news article, every investigative report by both independent agencies or our own government and they'll all pretty much say the same thing. Saddam didn't have WMDs of the caliber we were led to believe existed leading up to and throughout the Iraq War. Only those who choose to believe the Bush/Cheney lie because like them they just can't bring themselves to accept the truth are the ones who have a problem with this issue. Nobody's trying to chance facts. You just refuse to believe the truth that the former President took this country to war under false pretenses.

    To put this in perspective, any time a sitting President has battle plans drawn up and revised before he's even laid out his rationale for going to war with any nation is a clear indication of what his intension are.

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    Re: Former U.N. Nuclear Weapons Inspector: "GW Bush should face criminal investigati

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, I don't disagree with everything you posted here. We have certianly had our own problems, and Party's are quickly revealing themselves equally faulty. On that we agree. But if you are making the case that we should just be the open checkbook, and force that the rest of the world calls on when they need help, then when that help is done they go back to demonizing us, and being despots then we disagree.
    Nope, not making that case at all...

    See this reminds me of that answer Obama gave when asked about American Exceptionalism, and his answer was that we are exceptional just like the French believe in French exceptionalism, and the Greeks in Greek exceptionalism....etc.

    Very weak man.

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    Actually... it's very insightful. He's dead on. There was nothing exceptional about Rome, or Greece, or the French... well... anyway...

    There is nothing exceptional about American's aside from access to abundant natural resources, a glimmer of self determination and a decimated industrial base globally after WWII. We certainly aren't now... dumbed down, fat, lazy, dependent... of course that's a broad stroke... but becoming more the reality by the day.

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    Re: Former U.N. Nuclear Weapons Inspector: "GW Bush should face criminal investigati

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    Nope, not making that case at all...



    Actually... it's very insightful. He's dead on. There was nothing exceptional about Rome, or Greece, or the French... well... anyway...

    There is nothing exceptional about American's aside from access to abundant natural resources, a glimmer of self determination and a decimated industrial base globally after WWII. We certainly aren't now... dumbed down, fat, lazy, dependent... of course that's a broad stroke... but becoming more the reality by the day.
    You have my pity.

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    Re: Former U.N. Nuclear Weapons Inspector: "GW Bush should face criminal investigati

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Don't ya just love how the hard lefties side with this nations enemies at any turn. Dhimmi's.


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    Really? You really want to go there? Just because the guy happens to be of Middle-Eastern decent suddenly he's our enemy? Why must the hardline Right constantly lump people in the same basket?

    The man was one of the U.N. inspectors who inspected Iraqi weapons facilities. You'd think that if anyone knew what the hell was going on over there prior to the fighting it would be him! Geez!!

    But it's not that I take his word at face value. It is the fact that I've read the news articles, the special investigative reports and heard the words uttered from GWBush's own lips - they didn't find the weapons! The fighting has all but stopped; U.S. special forces are still in Iraq and to date there are STILL NO WEAPONS FOUND! The facts are slapping you in the face the a pimp b**ch slapping one of his whores and yet you still cling to the lie after the lie...

    "Oh, the evidence was faulty. We were told differently."

    You're the President of the United States. You have all kinds of daily intelligence reports coming across your desk along with daily briefings not to mention our government intelligences agencies share intelligence with other friendly nations. If you receive reports via secret memo telling you that the intelligency you're leaning on to go to war is faulty and you don't heed it and go to war anyway, you've just committed an act that cost hundreds if not thousands of lives needlessly! To me, you've violated the People's trust. That in itself is worth investigating!!! Let the facts fall where they made. If found innocent, no harm no foul. He's vindicated and we can all put the matter to rest. If not...

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    Re: Former U.N. Nuclear Weapons Inspector: "GW Bush should face criminal investigati

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post

    For what? What has he done that would warrant being investigated for war crimes?
    He has bombed Libya and Libya is even less of a threat than Iraq was. Actually, no threat! He has splattered WMD (DU) all over Libya and he has failed to prosecute GWBUSH for torture. It's just another slimy OIL deal.

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    Re: Former U.N. Nuclear Weapons Inspector: "GW Bush should face criminal investigati

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    Or maybe they are just a large enough religious group to have crazy out croppings.

    If not, than baptists should openly accept Westboro as one of their own.
    You obviously don't know a thing about the Muslim Brotherhood.
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    Re: Former U.N. Nuclear Weapons Inspector: "GW Bush should face criminal investigati

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    You have my pity.

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